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I am trying to get more information abou this gun.
Here is the link to the auction. The person I bought it from bought it here.
http://www.cowanauctions.com/a...m.aspx?ItemId=102806

I have found used dies, rcbs 3 die set, for $75. I can get the following ammo and reload it.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/61944-1.html

$53 seem good for loaded ammo. My local shop wants $75, as do the mail order places other then Cheaper than dirt.

I can get 20 pcs of norma brass for $40. I don't seem to see 193 grain bullets for reloading anywhere. They are all heavier, maybe for 9.3 by 74 or other 9.3 calibers.

I am unlike to hunt with this, just want to bring it to the range .

Thanks,
Mario in NH

PS I paid about 25% less then the auction price listed.
 
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The stock is cracked at the head, left side of stock.

Make sure that it either can be repaired or that it's been repaired and it's stable.


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Posts: 802 | Location: Palomino Valley, NV | Registered: 26 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Thanks. Yeah, kind of looks like that. I was planning on having my gunsmith look this over prior to shooting.


QUOTE]Originally posted by a.tinkerer:
The stock is cracked at the head, left side of stock.

Make sure that it either can be repaired or that it's been repaired and it's stable.[/QUOTE]
 
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Take clear photos of the proof marks on the barrels and flats of the action. Markings on the exterior of the gun and then contact.
http://www.germanguns.com/


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Originally posted by Lawdog:
Take clear photos of the proof marks on the barrels and flats of the action. Markings on the exterior of the gun and then contact.
http://www.germanguns.com/


Thanks. Had a posting at that site also, and yes, the proof marks are key. When I get the gun in next week, that will be the first thing I do!
 
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The link says the rifle is a 9.3X 72 R & NOT the more common 9.3X74R.

If you can find an old Rifle magazine article by John Barsness, there is an article on such a caliber which used 358 cal bullets & JB had to get the bore slugged and do some research etc.

It would make a great driven bore gun for European hunting (which was what they were made for & stilla are.)

Good price for a nice gun.


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The link says the rifle is a 9.3X 72 R & NOT the more common 9.3X74R.

If you can find an old Rifle magazine article by John Barsness, there is an article on such a caliber which used 358 cal bullets & JB had to get the bore slugged and do some research etc.

It would make a great driven bore gun for European hunting (which was what they were made for & stilla are.)

Good price for a nice gun.


Yes, thanks. Actually, the guy I bought it from paid the $1300 some odd. He was in a rush to sell it, I got it for $1035 shipped.

I had the gun over to my gunsmith, who is Purdy trained and is from Great Britain. I am lucky to live a 5 min drive from his shop.

He said it is in very good shape, was not shot a lot. He sees these come in with bad hinge pins, bad bores, cracked stocks, and people saw German hunting gun and paid $2k for them. Then they need lots of work, the bores don't get better, however. The bores in this gun are pristine. He said to measure and watch the cracks on the stock. They may be stable. If they start getting longer he can reinforce them from the inside of the stock. The lines on the foregrip that I thought were cracks are engraving lines.
It is unusual as the 12 gauge is not normally found, 16 gauge is the norm. These are custom guns, the original owner wanted 12 gauge. Also, the cartridge storage in the bottom of the stock opens to the side, not to the back, the 1st one my gunsmith ever saw like this. And he worked on many combination guns, cape guns, and drillings in London and now here in the US.

The 9.3 by 72r is less common then 74r, it is called the forresters cartridge in Germany, lots of history on the 72r over there prior to ww2.
Going to slug the barrel. Will look up that article.
I found some new RWS brass, picked up 3 boxes while I could.
Thanks.
 
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You seem to have coverd all the bases. Nothing like having a really professional craftsman gun maker look the gun over. I would just go ahead and reinforce the stock and not have to fret and worry about it later.

Good luck.

PS> Could you please post some close up photos. Thanks


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Sellier & Belliot also make decent ammo for the 9.3x72R and you can often find it for about the same price as the RWS brass alone. Have fun, the 9.3x72R essentially duplicates the performance of the .38-55 WCF so it should be a lovely bear or deer cartridge for New England hunting.


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