the remington adl synthetic is a little whippy up front, and it's got two forearm bearing bumps in which the barrel is supposed ro center. don't bet on it. my adl needed bedding and the bumps sanded away before it would shoot well. shoots like a house afire now. i don't like the feel of the material, but i REALLY like that slim wrist and the classic profile.
If you're talking about the injectionmolded plastic, I'd say it's a toss up between Remington and Winchester.
IMHO, the best composite OEM stocks are the Bell & Carlson Medalist stocks. They come with an aluminum bedding block, and are standard equipment in most Weatherbys like the Ultra Light, Accumark, SVM, SPM, SBGM, and TRR. In fact, I remember hearing (but can't confrim) that Bell & Carlson won the contract to supply stocks for Remington's 700 VS, 700 VSSF, and 700P rifles.
These B&C stocks will do wonders for your rifle's accuracy.
Posts: 2206 | Location: USA | Registered: 31 August 2002
Some of the new Winchester stocks have taken on a different look. Synthetic with some sort of raised rubber grips. A different look for sure, but IMO better than the Ruger synthetic from a few years ago. TTS
Posts: 84 | Location: Wisconsin | Registered: 18 December 2001
The Remingtons are very flimsy, you can grab it in your hands and literally twist the stock. Winchester is a little better. They are nothing compared to the Mcmillans and HS. I actually own 3 of the old school Ruger synthetics and like them a lot. Problem with the Ruger, Rem, and Win is due to the material they make them out of, it is hard to get bedding to stick to it.
The high-end Remingtons have stocks from Bell&Carlson and McMillan; i.e. the Sendero has a B&C (used to be HS Precision, then B&C, I heard they may have HS again) and the Custom Shop Mountain Rifles and AWRs have McMillan stocks.
I agree with Buzz. I have a Remington 700 Stainless Synthetic Mountain Rifle in .30-06 with one of those crappy Tupperware Stocks. I sanded out the forend and bedded it with forend pressure consisting of a bit of BondoGlass covered by a layer of electrical tape (believe it or not)and it now puts the first three shots into 1 inch at 200 metres.
I just handled one of the new Winchester synthetics, with raised fore-end and grip panels (on a push feed 70). This is one ugly stock. However, when I handled it, it felt quite right. Ugly is as ugly does, I guess. - Dan
Posts: 5285 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 05 October 2001
Dan-----Second your opinion of the Winlite stock, probably the best made synthetic on a factory piece. I wish they would bring that one back.
FYI I just recieved a fitted and bedded Stock back from Stuart Reid for a Husky Action. This is one super product all Canucks should consider for custom units.
I am not a fan of any oinjection tupperware stocks. I prefer wood to these.
As far as injection moulded and injection moulded only Ruger by far is the stiffest one out there both old model and the new model. Remington and Winchester are pretty darn flimsy and that goes as well for the Weatherby. Browning synthetic is reinforced with some partitions in the foreend but is still flimsy compared to the Ruger.
Posts: 1779 | Location: Southeast | Registered: 31 March 2003
The Kevlar Mtn. rifle stocks that Remington uses on their custom shop guns are really nice. A McMillian, but at 24 ozs., not 30-32 ozs., thanks to the use of Kevlar. I have an H-S stock on my 700 VSFS. Glass bedding did not improve it. Shoots all kinds of loads around .5 MOA. As far as I'm concerned, all the cheap B&C, and all the injected moulded stocks are junk. The injected moulded ones are too flexable, and none of them seem to hold up in their webbing area. The ones used on the Weatherbys might be OK. I just don't know anyone who has shot one alot or had it long. The B&C I had would shift zero every 12-20 rds. This was after a good stock maker glass bedded it for me. He stopped using them shortly thereafter. E
Posts: 1022 | Location: Placerville,CA,USA | Registered: 28 May 2002
Dan- You are correct, My older Husky model needed a lot of fitting but the result is a truely ballanced and strong stock that has that custom feel to it. A great fit for the many great FN actions out there that need a new handle.