Gents:

I was shooting the M70 06 at the range yesterday and I had loaded two rounds. I fired the first and aggressively worked the bolt as I always do. I sighted the target and when I pulled the trigger, all I heard was a click.

Well, I put the safety on and looked down to find the second round lying next to the first, fired cartridge. Can anyone offer an explanation? The next thing I did was to fully load the magazine and all cartridges were cycled without further mishap.

Any thoughts?

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and aggressively worked the bolt a

I have found that "aggressive" working of the bolt can at times jar the next round loose and throw it to the ground.....it shouldn't happen but occasionally does. Normal working of the bolt may not jar the next round loose.

You can try to have someone do some rail work or trade the gun off.....

IMO it needs to be fixed.....

I believe one should always load and shoot from the magazine at the range if the rules permit it as it's how you learn these things.

Your next round should withstand aggressive working of the bolt....

Sounds very dangerous to me. What cartridge is it for anyway?

If it is chambered for anything between .177" bore diameter and .510" bore diameter, your civic conscience demands you send it to someone like ME for analysis. I'll test it for 10 years in the hunting fields, and then (if you can find me), I'll give it back to you with a more or less complete report.

Range Gremlins.

This might get some more response over at gunsmithing but my response FWIW is that as it occurred with the second of two, you might have a slack fit between the action rail & mag follower. Try loading up some dummy rounds (no primer or powder) & try to replicate what happened. If you can make it happen on any other than the second last round, you have feed rail problems, if its always the second last ( ie the last round that jumps out) you have a mag follower problem & the ridge on the follower might need building up. Best left to a smith who knows what they're doing if you don't feel competent in this area.
Steve

Another posibility is if you have a crf and didn't realise that you moved the bolt back a little on the loading stroke. Those things (crf's) are always ejecting rounds all over the place.

Vapodog is close to it.

The basic problem is probably misalignment on the rail.

These sporter rifles sometimes have magazine and rail issues. They have cheap, bent sheet metal magazines, sometimes the rails are not machined properly, etc.

I have a M70 classic that has autoejected an entire stack of cartridges, after I stripper clip fed them into the magazine. It had real problems and was unreliable. Now, it is a single shot target rifle.

I have seen a competitor stripper clip five rounds into a M700, and saw the entire stack eject out.

Keep on loading and shooting it. If it does not repeat, than call it a none explained operational failure (NEOF). If it happens once in a while, something is wrong.

It's a 30 06 that Dennis Olsen will make into a 375 H&H this winter so perhaps the point will be moot.

This is a common problem with M70s , M700s and Savages with the sheet metal feed rails, especially push feeds. It is a simple fix; remove the sheet metal magazine and slightly bend (I use wide jawed pliers) the lip on the left side. Don't bend too much, just a little. Re-assemble and test with dummy cartridges. Easy fix.

Larry Gibson

I have seen several, mostly Savages that would do it every time the mag. was fully loaded.

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
Gents:

I was shooting the M70 06 at the range yesterday and I had loaded two rounds. I fired the first and aggressively worked the bolt as I always do. I sighted the target and when I pulled the trigger, all I heard was a click.

Well, I put the safety on and looked down to find the second round lying next to the first, fired cartridge. Can anyone offer an explanation? The next thing I did was to fully load the magazine and all cartridges were cycled without further mishap.

Any thoughts?

Were you using factory ammunition, or handloads?, Sometimes overall lengths of loaded rounds can vary, I experienced a second round jump-out on a 7mm WSM,three round floorplate set-up, yet loaded with the same manufacturers cartridge/ bullet, at a different bullet weight same loading set-up as before, problem go's away!