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in all my years 50+ of rifle nut stuff, I found what I consider, PERFECTION.
I, in my life have had many rifles. Customs, M-70's, 700's, Mausers, Blasers, and others.
I bought a Tikka T-3 Lite stainless in .270 WSM a few years ago. I figured it would be a good "loaner", or something to just have around.
Once working with this rifle, produced some shock with a lower chronographed velocity (200fps) than advertised with factory ammo.
Accuracy was really good though. 1" or better.
I started working loads for this rifle.
Everything looked good with 140gr loads. I used this as a start. Different powders, primers, bullets and loads.
I found that 160gr Noslers seemed to print the best groups. Primers seemed to produce different results with same powder loads.
To make a long story short. I settled on:
160gr Nosler, CCI 250 primer, Norma case,
60.5 gr RL-19. Seat 0.0020" off lands.
Note: this OAL will just fit the Tikka mag.
This rifle has 0.100" freebore. LONG, compared
to my Kimber 8400 at 0.022".
This rifle will shoot three in ONE hole!!!!
It is the same, everytime!!
It is set up with a cheap scope; Bushnell 3200 3x9 with the(glow worm) reticle. Just factory rings.
It is FANTASTIC!!!!!
In all my life, never had a rifle like this.
For a rifle I thought to loan my friends; this is one I will keep.


"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
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Posts: 423 | Location: Eastern Washington State | Registered: 16 March 2006Reply With Quote
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I'm wondering if that Tika has the standard one in ten inch twist? I figured the 160 wouldn't shoot accurately worth a darn in a 270.

I have a friend who is an old timer Alaskan. I believe he has never had a new rifle in his life, only hand-me-downs. He's been shooting an old Remington 722 or whatever in 300 H&H since I've known him. That is one old ugly rifle, but he keeps it clean. The scope is so blurred that I can hardly stand to look through it, and he has it wrapped in electrical tape - he says to keep it from fogging.

He's left handed, and has always shot a right handed rifle - on his left shoulder. I suppose if he had a left handed rifle, he would have to learn to shoot again. Anyway, I've been trying to talk him into getting something new, and suggest a Tika stainless in 300 WM. He's thinking about it.

KB


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I have a 270WSM built on a Ruger #1 and it also likes the 160 Nosler partition. Got my first elk with it last September. Got drawn again this year and looking to make it two in a row!


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Aside from range work or novelty; a 1 hole gun serves no real useful purpose for hunting over another rifle shooting 1/2 MOA or less. This is because this type of accuracy only serves any purpose during long range shooting.

Long range shooting should be based upon long range wind deflection and wind stability being most important. This would choose the design, caliber, and weight of the bullet. Then a rifle is chosen around that and hopefully not to costly to tweak it to shoot near perfection.

Not to criticise but perhaps you could make some substantial money from selling that rifle then buy yourself a biggerbore for long range work.
 
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Aside from range work or novelty; a 1 hole gun serves no real useful purpose for hunting over another rifle shooting 1/2 MOA or less. This is because this type of accuracy only serves any purpose during long range shooting.


It's serves the most usefull purpose IMO, that being it instills confidence and that is as important as it gets.


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Originally posted by ar corey:
Aside from range work or novelty; a 1 hole gun serves no real useful purpose for hunting over another rifle shooting 1/2 MOA or less. This is because this type of accuracy only serves any purpose during long range shooting.

Long range shooting should be based upon long range wind deflection and wind stability being most important. This would choose the design, caliber, and weight of the bullet. Then a rifle is chosen around that and hopefully not to costly to tweak it to shoot near perfection.

Not to criticise but perhaps you could make some substantial money from selling that rifle then buy yourself a biggerbore for long range work.


This has got to be one of the stupidest replies I have read on AR in some time. Are you knocking the fact that he has the ability to shoot one whole groups, or the fact that he is shooting a 270WSM? I would suspect that you have a bad case of caliber/moa envy!

In reading your post, which long range hunting rifle and caliber would you suggest and why?
 
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My favorite rifles are my most accurate rifles, and I don't care that I can't actually use all that accuracy in the field. I really like seeing those small groups when I go to the range, and logically I figure the rifle will shoot the same when I'm hunting, only if I'm able to hold it steady enough. But of course in field conditions there are a lot of variables, but that's ok too, and just part of it. At least I have minimized one variable by having an accurate rifle. So where's the problem?

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
My favorite rifles are my most accurate rifles, and I don't care that I can't actually use all that accuracy in the field. I really like seeing those small groups when I go to the range, and logically I figure the rifle will shoot the same when I'm hunting, only if I'm able to hold it steady enough. But of course in field conditions there are a lot of variables, but that's ok too, and just part of it. At least I have minimized one variable by having an accurate rifle. So where's the problem?

KB

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I have one. I paid $350 for a 1952 FN Mauser actioned .30-06 with a Williams peep sight that will put 10 shots under an inch at 100 yards with factory Remington 165 gr. Corelokts.
 
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This has got to be one of the stupidest replies I have read on AR in some time. Are you knocking the fact that he has the ability to shoot one whole groups, or the fact that he is shooting a 270WSM?


No, not a 270 WSM, the .277 caliber overall in respect to long range hunting which I consider to be past 600 yards. Past 600 yards a hole gun like this begins to become an asset over a ragged hole gun and the .277 caliber does not offer the best performance for this.

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I would suspect that you have a bad case of caliber/moa envy!


Not at all. I wouldn't want a rifle like that. It would be too expensive because shooting it would be so much fun!

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In reading your post, which long range hunting rifle and caliber would you suggest and why?


7mm or .30

Why?

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It's serves the most usefull purpose IMO, that being it instills confidence and that is as important as it gets.


Important from 0-450 yards. Long range requires more.
 
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Corey, you're making an arguement out of left field for the sake of being arguementitive at best and being an ass at worst. Where exactly did he state this was a long range rifle? Why would he sell the rifle for a bigger bore "for long range work" if he's not using it for long range. Your argument is with yourself and has nothing to do with the original topic.


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