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What's the deal on this one? Decent gun or low budget junker?

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Mike

 
Posts: 199 | Location: Ontario, Canada | Registered: 15 April 2002Reply With Quote
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I don't like the rifle at all. The bolt is too hard to lift from the shoulder. The action are barrel are such that it cannot be rebarreled. The stock is a lump of plastic.

 
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thanks Don.

any other inputs?

 
Posts: 199 | Location: Ontario, Canada | Registered: 15 April 2002Reply With Quote
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I recall, years ago in the Army, taking a cruise down the Rhine River in search of the absolute cheapest bottle of wine. Just to see if we could drink it without holding our noses or vomiting. I think some of my old pals might be working for Remington.

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Posts: 2036 | Location: Roebling, NJ 08554 | Registered: 20 January 2002Reply With Quote
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I have never held or shot one, but a couple of friends of mine from work have them and all they said was that they were first class shooters.
 
Posts: 598 | Location: Missouri | Registered: 16 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I haven't shot one, and I don't know anyone who has one. I think there's a good idea or two in the design, but the overall package is not for me.

The idea of having locking lugs as part of the barrel, I think has merit. (Does that make a Model 710 barrel the serial numbered part you need an FFL for?). That lets Remington use lighter materials to make the receiver.

I'd like to see a demountable, threaded barrel/receiver connection because 1) the connection would be as stable as in any other modern rifle, 2) if the connection did unscrew, the rotation would be easily discernible, and 3) improved aftermarket (alloy, polymer, extra heavy duty) receivers could be installed to modify and improve the rifle's performance.

But did Remington use threads? Nooooo.

They messed up the whole thing by press fitting the barrel and receiver together. If that press fit loosens up (recoil forces, combined with repeated heating and cooling of the barrel would be a good way for this to happen), and if the scope is mounted on the receiver, point of impact will change, and what are you going to do? Press fit it harder than before? Pack a mallet with you to the range? How are you going to know when the problem starts?

The 710 was put out there to sell cheap. It is cheap. Maybe it will sell. I don't see it catching on with tinkerers or accuracy buffs.

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Posts: 3691 | Location: West Virginia | Registered: 23 May 2001Reply With Quote
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The 710 was put out there to sell cheap. It is cheap. Maybe it will sell. I don't see it catching on with tinkerers or accuracy buffs.

Agreed, it won't be a hit with tinkerers. But it will probably be a big hit with the Wal-Mart, afternoon-before-deer-season-opens, going-to-get-me-a-gun-and-boxxa-bullets, crowd.

 
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I was considering one of these in .30-06 to economically round out my arsenal . It would be an "occasional use" gun, used maybe once a year. I think I'll look for a used M700 or Ruger 77 based on your comments here.

thanks for the help guys,

Mike

 
Posts: 199 | Location: Ontario, Canada | Registered: 15 April 2002Reply With Quote
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junk!!!!

buy a ruger, winchester or a CZ

 
Posts: 1573 | Location: USA, most of the time  | Registered: 11 March 2002Reply With Quote
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The 710 was designed for a guy on a budget that wanted a gun to take out one or two days a year. Suggested retail price is $425. If you go to a discount store you could probably find one for $350 OR LESS! That includes a rifle, scope, and mounts. And, from the reviews I have read you don't sacrifice accuracy. I think Remington had a great idea, make a gun that anyone could afford and that shot well. The 710 is definitely not a gun for someone who wants top quality. The 710 is a gun for someone who wants to hunt once a year and then put the gun away for the next 364 days. You can't even buy a new Ruger or Savage for less than the 710 package.

My advice: if you would buy a Camry (or equivalent domestic car) pass on the 710. If you would buy a Corolla or Echo instead (save some money), get the 710. Both will drive well. As far as hunting ballistics, you will be hard pressed to find any difference.

 
Posts: 90 | Location: Pullman, WA, USA | Registered: 03 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Hey Ben...please don't insult Toyota owners by comparing a Corolla or an Echo to a Remington 710...a squeek and rattle Chevy would be a better camparable... )

BTW, I do own a Camry and no, I wouldn't let a Remington 710 in the house. A 700 ADL is a much better buy or any of the other budget rifles, such as a Savage or Ruger.

 
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No insult intended! I own a Toyota Camry myself. You are correct; the Toyota isn�t a very good comparison. The Toyotas have an excellent track record and the 710 in new. I thought about buying a 710 but decided I wanted a more traditional (and proven) rifle. I think I will stop defending the 710 now and just say that I could see myself owning one if I wanted a simple rifle that looks good in review and I was on a tight budget.

Edit: Semi-auto Remington rifles use the same type of bolt/barrel lock up (the receiver being there to hold everything together an not placed under stress) as the 710.

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Posts: 90 | Location: Pullman, WA, USA | Registered: 03 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Have one in 30-006 and it is exactly what it is designed to be. Up here it is called a "Boat Gun", put it in the boat for when you're going for a joyride because you never know when you might run into a black bear that needs dispatching. It was never meant to be sold to the conasuer of high dollar rifles. It shoots MOA with my handloaded 165 Sper Grand Slams. I removed the even junkier Trashco scope that came with it and installed a 2X7 Leupold.

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Posts: 1058 | Location: Lodge Grass, MT. Sitka, Bethel, Fort Yukon, Chevak, Skagway, Cantwell and Pt. Hope Alaska | Registered: 24 June 2000Reply With Quote
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To each their own, but for my money I would buy a used Rem/Win or a new Savage for the same price or less. I've seen Weatherby, Savage, Remington, Ruger and Winchester rifles at Walmart for less than 400 dollars.

MM

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To each their own, but for my money I would buy a used Rem/Win or a new Savage for the same price or less[This message has been edited by MontanaMarine (edited 05-04-2002).]

Now that's what I call good sense.

If these 710's do catch on, though, we'll have a used market full of $150-$200 bolt guns that have barely been shot. I could see paying $150 for one of these. Nah, I'd grab another used Model 94.

H. C.

 
Posts: 3691 | Location: West Virginia | Registered: 23 May 2001Reply With Quote
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I don't know anything about this one except what I read of it in some gun magazines. It seems to me to be a very nice idea, but perhaps they should have made it into a Take-Down rifle, with exchangable barrels. that would have been a nice rifle, yet low cost, as compared to some custom jobs. ~~~Suluuq
 
Posts: 854 | Location: Kotzebue, Ak. | Registered: 25 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Allen, we have the same idea down here in the lower 48 as well, but we call them "behind the truck seat rifles". The difference is that my truck rifle is the first gun (smokeless) that I ever built, done in 7th grade metal and wood shops 40 years ago, and after many thousands of rounds and three barrels it still shoots as well as I can shoot with iron sights, still gets good comments from all who have used it, and will likely still be pleasing more generations of shooters after I am long gone. I just cannot see the latest P.O.S. from "rummyton" giving the pleasure of the service life of a real rifle.
 
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Not a rifle for rifle nuts. But a cheap, usefull, tool for one week a year hunters. I have a Remington 700 ADL. (The cheapest model) I don't like it, but it does the trick in the woods.

Johan

 
Posts: 1082 | Location: Middle-Norway (Veterinary student in Budapest) | Registered: 20 March 2002Reply With Quote
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i live in the uk and hunt deer as im a deer manager.
i bought the remmy 710 to plug a gap between a 223 and 6.5x55 the .270 federal classic in .130 grain is ample for the red stags and fallow bucks i shoot.
i shot a great roe buck and muntjac buck and as of yet the remmy hasnt missed a beat..
 
Posts: 4 | Location: england.uk | Registered: 13 September 2005Reply With Quote
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i suppose they will work as a boat gun, behind the seat gun, rattle around in the pickup bed gun. and i hear they are acceptably accurate. each to his own but i wouldn't buy one when i could get a used "real" gun Big Grin for the same or less.

as far as them selling...i know a guy who works his second job at the sporting goods section of walmart. they have had one 710 for several years. people come in and look at it and walk away shaking their heads and/or laughing.


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Posts: 1213 | Location: new braunfels, tx | Registered: 04 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Well now Remington has discontinued that 710 thing!
Think that says it all!
 
Posts: 290 | Location: Iceland | Registered: 06 January 2004Reply With Quote
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I hope this doesn't rain on anyone's party but years ago Remington had a model 788 that was their "economy" piece. But, altough inexpensive, they were generally more accurate than the more expensive 700's. For some reason their marketing people decided to can them. My sons have 788's in 308 Win that average .5 MOA. The 710 is Remington's attempt to correct their error of years past. If and when the manufacturers listen to shooters, maybe they can adopt a logical marketing strategy. The 788's went for around $100.00 with a 4X Tasco in around 1980. Go to a gun show and try to buy one at that price now.


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Posts: 200 | Location: Western Maryland | Registered: 30 April 2005Reply With Quote
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And BTW they were avialable in LH versions.


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Posts: 200 | Location: Western Maryland | Registered: 30 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Very cheap coarse rifle. Terrible bolt lift. I would personally buy a Stevens and I am a Rem fan.


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Posts: 6656 | Location: Wasilla, Alaska | Registered: 22 February 2005Reply With Quote
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I just bought a used FN .30-06 for well under $300 and it shoots exceptionally well. Look to the used market instead of the 710 is my advice.


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Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
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The 710 was a plastic fantastic throw away rifle . I would go for a Colt Light Rifle or a Savage 110
 
Posts: 276 | Location: Victoria, Australia | Registered: 24 May 2004Reply With Quote
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Although I would rather have a good used rifle than a new 710, I actually own a 710 in 30-06 and it isn't a bad shooting rifle. I paid $210 for it and it appeared never to have been fired. The Bushnell scope was pretty low grade, a throw-away from where I sit, so I replaced it with a Nikon 2-7x ProStaff in Warne rings. My 710 shoots most factory loads into groups that measure 2" or less. It is a little heavy and bulky, but for less than 1/10th the cost of a NULA, it does OK for what it is. I loaned it to a couple of guys who were having trouble hitting deer last fall and they managed to fill their tags with it. Truck gun, loaner, spare, but not a primary rifle unless you are new to hunting and just testing the water to see if you like it. I do think that Remington should take the plunge and build a short action 710 in 223, 22-250, 243, 260, 7mm-08, and 308 with a price equal to the Stevens 200. If they did, I think that Wal-Mart would sell many truck loads of them.

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Posts: 993 | Location: Omaha, NE, USA | Registered: 11 May 2005Reply With Quote
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Remington just announced that they will be making the 710 with a steel receiver instead of the plastic one.


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Posts: 12772 | Location: Kentucky, USA | Registered: 30 December 2002Reply With Quote
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I was setting up to do some shooting at the range one day and a kid sat downnext to me with one in 270, got comfortable and fired 20 rounds non stop loading by dropping shells into the action. 20 shot group 1 1/2 inches. Barrel was VERY hot but did not change it's POI. He let it cool a bit did some adjusting and fired a few mor times. Said it was his first big game rifle. I said a rifle that will shoot like that would take a lot of game. I don't want one though.


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