Are they bringing more than $1000 in your area?

Not talking about super rare calibers just plain standard or featherweight model 70's in .30-06, .270 etc (common calibers)

I've only seen one locally that was more ($2800) a nice specimen in .375 H&H. Not sure if it is worth that or not, they are rarely seen in this part of the state. Otherwise they almost all can be had for right at $1000.

Do you think the prices will stay like this or continue to go up/down? I don't hear anyone speaking about pre-64 model 70's with all of the Christensen, Mesa Precision, Bergara, etc out there. CRF is hardly mentioned outside of web forum message boards.

For my sake I hope that the prices will continue to rise...as I've been chasing Model 70's lately

A lot depend on condition and box/papers. Like new with box and papers here seem to be 2000-3000 asking. From there things drop down dramatically.

Your average, hunting grade pre-64 model 70 in common calibers can be had in this area for under $1000, maybe closer to $750-800. This assumes average wear and no added recoil pad, etc.
Collector's models in pristine condition or rare calibers definitely go for much, much more. But shooter grade 70's aren't that expensive here.
Bill

I watch gunbroker quite a bit and I would say in the last 6 months most pre 64 M70's have gone up in the price they actually sell for.

The last few years the Pre 64 Model 70 prices have been a little bit flat. I also have noticed a price increase over the last six months or so. On sites like Guns International a correct Standard grade .30-06 in high condition have been selling at over $1500. Pre War guns in the same caliber, and condition have sold for close to $3000! This of course is the most common caliber found in the Pre 64 Model 70. Other calibers of course would bring more. When a Model 70 is no longer original is when the demand, and price would drop. These rifles are great for hunting, and shooting. But, the Collector would not be to interested. I have noticed that most Pre 64 Model 70s that sell for a bargain have been modified. Added recoil pads, holes drilled in the receiver or barrel that are not factory, missing, or wrong sights are just a few problems that I have noticed. All in all I think that unmodified Pre 64 Rifles in good to excellent condition will increase in value. Modified rifles may as well, but most likely only slightly.

At our gunshows, Ive purchased several for $600 to $650 in common calibers like 06 and 270 and seen a number for about that, buy on the last day near quitting time. The others fetch $800 and up..Last show I got a 300 H&H Rem 721 for $400 with a 3x9 Leupold, sold it for a good profit and in a hurry..kept the scope and double my money..Gun market in Idaho has gone to the toilet, so Im buying..The small town shows are he best.

I'm in an area where pre-64 M70s were rarely bought to use. Bolt rifles were mostly springfields and mausers worked over crudely. And even today, I know exactly 2 people, other than myself, who've ever used one to hunt with. So when I've went to gun shows, when there is one, it has been HUGELY overpriced because apparently the seller is not knowledgeable on actual selling prices or doesn't really want to sell it. I don't go to gun shows anymore, so don't know what's current. Based on gunbroker, it would seem that finding the most common, a standard grade 06' for under maybe 800. would be rare. When I see people on this forum and campfire say they bought one for say 450. or 500, I shake my head in amazement.

I wish I could find some for around 400-700...I'd probably own a lot more than I already do

Gun prices are geographical for the most part..

The magical ruger paddle stock is selling higher than the pre64 Winchester rifles and I am not kidding .It cracks me up . That ruger stock cost them $12 to make .I guess it's the Alaska shows doing it .
I bought a pre64 Winchester light weight 270 with a Leopold 3x10 varix3 scope on it for $425 in 2005 I sold the scope for $250 and it took 5 years to sell the rifle I just didn't like it really but I made money off of it .

I just paid $1,000 for a very nice, original pre-64 (1956) Featherweight and I thought the price fair for the condition of the gun.

Featherweights seem to bring a 10%-20% premium over Standard guns. I spent a few weeks looking for a 3006 Featherweight and most of the guns that I saw on the market had been messed with (pad, rebulbed, refinished, etc.) or had excessive wear. Prices were anywhere from $1,100 - $1,500. For a standard rifle in 3006 or 270 and in original condition with honest wear I think $900 would be aa fair price.

I paid $700-750 for a 1955 .30-06 from jimatcat 5-6 years ago. It has since been opened up and rebarelled to .300 H&H and I’m happy with it so far. I may restock it or refinish it, but it shoots well as is.

I'm considering getting rid of a few "extra" guns to take on more pre-64 model 70's. I keep going through this stash of guns that a local gun shop bought from an estate. I think 3 or 4 of them need to come home with me. 2 standards, 1 featherweight & 1 prewar.

Lord help me

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Originally posted by Bo Rich:
Pre War guns in the same caliber, and condition have sold for close to $3000! This of course is the most common caliber found in the Pre 64 Model 70. Other calibers of course would bring more. When a Model 70 is no longer original is when the demand, and price would drop. These rifles are great for hunting, and shooting. But, the Collector would not be to interested. I have noticed that most Pre 64 Model 70s that sell for a bargain have been modified. Added recoil pads, holes drilled in the receiver or barrel that are not factory, missing, or wrong sights are just a few problems that I have noticed. All in all I think that unmodified Pre 64 Rifles in good to excellent condition will increase in value.

Interesting ... Wonder what my Grandpa's 1942 (6-digit ser. #) '06 M70 with the original receiver sight would bring?

It was a "hunter" for sure, so its condition would likely rate only "good-to-very good" at best.

Going for crazy prices around here; guys just like the mystique of something from a bygone era. Collector grades go for 2-3K and even a shooter grade will be hard to get for under $1000. Certainly not worth that much, as modern rifles are far better made and more accurate, the cachet is there nonetheless. I guess only in Idaho are they cheap.
I get guys every week asking for actions but they only want to pay $350 for one.
It ain't 1980 any more.
Collector's markets have no rules. And guys that have money, have more of it now; no vacations, Africa hunts, wild woman excursions, etc; you can still get cars and guns.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Gun prices are geographical for the most part..

I believe this to be true in some more rural areas. However, the internet has evened out prices across the board much more than in the old days.

bought .243 featherweight pad added 6x wolverine with dot , buehler mounts last summer. 600

Matt is right; only guys who can't use the internet sell and buy at local prices. They are still living in 1982. I rarely find those guys any more.
Add to that the Mega Auction Sites like Rock Island; they buy and sell globally and the prices reflect that. for the most part.

When I used to travel I would stick my nose in every little tiny mom and pop I could find.

Often I would pick up a rifle or two that had been in the shop for 5 or 6 years in a caliber that was not wanted locally.

Especially true for things like Mark V's, bigger calibers, and esoteric chamberings.

Though sometimes the guy will have some kind of sentimental value on a rifle that has been in the shop a long time for no reason. There was a 460 Weatherby in a Mom and Pop gunshop in California that was still there 15 years later. Still at the same price. I think $2950. I offered him $2000 for it every time I came through town and he wouldn't budge.

You just never know.

My experience in the shotgun world has been a little different. Someone dies and an old shotgun, say a 12 ga Parker Trojan, lands in his hands. He immediately goes in the internet and sees high-grade Parker’s and high condition Parker’s selling for five figures. In his mind that lowly Trojan is worth thousands.

There was a day when it was not unusual to walk into a small gun shop and spot a dust covered treasure hanging on the wall or sitting in a corner but for the most part those days are long gone. Nevertheless, I still get excited when I find a local shop off the beaten path. Sometime you do get lucky.

Yes on the shotgun story.

Rifles are harder to sell, especially in esoteric calibers.

how about a pre war mod 70 in 22 hornet? finish is about 75% maby a bit more. shoots very well.

Good post, glad I stopped in and read it.

Now I feel much better about selling Dad's 1960
'06 for $750 back in '15. I just never liked that wing safety. So I'd never of shot it and already have a nice '06 I like.

The buttstock was in a horse mounted scabbard when the horse raked hell out of it on a tree while elk hunting. Man that looked UGLY!

I couldn't stand seeing a nice rifle looking so scabbed up. Refinished the stock til it looked real nice. I was told doing that cut the value. "not by much the way it was scabbed up it didn't". Wasn't a ding in the wood at all, just the hard finish flaked off in quarter sized patches. Close to half of it was gone on one side.

George

Asking and selling is far apart..condition, condition is the secret to high dollar pre 64 mod 70s anyway you cut it..What I see is one guy sells his mint in the box mod. 70 for $1500, so the next nerd get insulted and quotes that price for is 70% gun..Happens a lot and the old 70 percenter goes home pissed off!

I like to buy the 80 to 90 percent guns, as that seems to be the better deal and most want a hunting gun, and IMO a using gun must not be a collector, I don't care to pack my gun hunting in a case while hunting, putting it back in acase all day long, or holding it under my coat so it doesn't get a nick or scratch..I like a gun I can hunt with, a tool of sorts, and shoots little groups, those are keepers, used but not abused, the rest are the horrible closet queens that are worthless as tits on a bore hog, there at last Ive said it and thats my story and Im sticking with it,

I do invest in some mint guns, and they go down the road..

BTW that Ruger boat paddle sells because it gets the job done, no fuss, stab the butt in the snow, use it for a paddle in need be, beat a grizzly to death and don't worry about breaking it, no need t worry about rust, it just the toughest kid on the block, as a result its popular with "hunters" as opposed to shooters..

I recall one gent who talked me into taking him hunting, he showed up with a cased pre 64 mod 70 300 H&H, neat gun and mint...He was in poor condition so I drove him around in my favorite haunt, and every buck we saw he unzipped the gun loaded it and the deer was gone, I made a number of suggestions but his mind was made up, finally we saw a 34 plus incher and he was messing with getting prepared to shoot, and as the buck went over the ridge I shot him..He started to get upset, and I explained to him again that I couldn't let a buck like that walk off, I was not his guide, or his benifactor. The rest of the day he used my gun and shot a decent buck, talked me into selling him my gun to hunt with as he had killed his first deer with it..Said he really liked it because it didn't kick like the 300 H&H...It was a nice Mauser in 7x57, well used but not abused..