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There is a really nice 8x60 in a local shop here- it looks like it is very difficult to find. Anybody know how available it is? I can't find it anywhere. ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | ||
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I assume this is an 8x60S (i.e. .323 bore?? If not (i.e. 8x60 - .318 bore) there is no factory ammo available that I'm aware of. RWS loads a single load for the 8x60S. It is available in Europe, but in general probably only by order. Few, if any, shops will have it on the shelves. In the US, perhaps it is possible to get the RWS ammo, but it could be tricky. On the positive side, Huntingtons list RWS brass. I don't know about actual availability, but at least there is a chance it might be available. If yes, you could lay in 3-400 cases (expensive) and have a good supply for the years to come. All this assuming you reload, naturally. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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The 8x60s is basically a handloader's only cartridge in the United States. I've seen RWS brass listed, but never never loaded ammunition. That's not to say you couldn't contact one of the custom loading firms and order up some ammunition from them, but you would definitely pay a premium for it. I have a Mauser action and I have an 8x60s barrel. I am waiting on a friend of mine to get his FFL so I can be his first customer and hire him to put the barrel and action together. Then I guess I'll have yet another weird cartridge to load for... Jason "Chance favors the prepared mind." | |||
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8x60- Is that rimmed or rimless? Either way, there's a workaround. Rimless can be formed from 30-06 brass and rimmed can be formed from 7x65r brass. Don't expect to ever find any (rimmed or rimless) 8x60 ammo on a retailers shelf in the USA. The catrtidge is a honey. Fantastic potential, but you need to dedicate yourself to it's performance at the reloading bench. If you'll be passing on it, let us know what you're looking at so we can go for it if we choose. Is it a single shot, a double rifle, or a magazine turnbolt rifle you're looking at? --Tinker _________________________________ Self appointed Colonel, DRSS | |||
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Every now and then someone imports a shipment of the RWS ammo, but expect to pay upwards of $80 a box when they do. It is expensive in Europe, and doesn't get cheaper as it crosses the puddle. Brass is plentiful, though. Check Natchez and Huntington. As for loads, just take 8x57 and 8mm-06 data and start in the middle. | |||
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What cartridge do you speak of? The 8x60 (.318) or the 8x60S (.323)? If you need some load data for the S, I can help you! | |||
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So there you go- 8x60 J(i) or S? (.318 or .323?) Rimmed or Rimless? If rimmed, 8x60RJ 8x60RS or 8X60 R Guedes? Consider that there are also variants out there noted as 8x60 Magnum and 8x60 Magnum Bombe! Lots to consider when calling your rifle "8x60" --Tinker _________________________________ Self appointed Colonel, DRSS | |||
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it's R-A-R-E. I don't have any, and my wife thinks I have three of everything. Check with Lawndart...he does have at least two boxes of everything. Rich DRSS | |||
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I saw an Hornady Dieset this weekend, thought about buying it as im considering rechambering my 8x57 IS to 8x60S, but time will tell if i do that. | |||
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The 8x60 Magnum (RWS) and the 8x60 Magnum Bombe (DWM) are very hot loaded variations of the 8x60S from the time before and while WW II. | |||
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I am using RWS 8x60S brass purchased from Natchez Shooters Supply. They started stocking RWS a couple of years ago, and priced reasonably, at least as reasonable as can be expected. Bought 200 rounds of 8x60S, 6.5x57, and 5.6x57 from them, oh and a hundred of .22 Hornet. If you are loading for a 0.323 bore 8x60S, this brass is perfect. IF you are feeding a 0.318 bore 8x60mm, you need a proper set of dies to reduce the neck, and of course the 0.318 bullets. Loaded 8x60mm or 8x60S is rare in the USA, but still listed for sale in Europe by RWS and S&B. LLS  | |||
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Is a very good caliber and usually the rifles for it are really nice old ones of refined quality. I have three of them and use it a lot for red stag and hogs with amazing results. I think that you must load your amunition or get some one that do it for you. If is the .318 version you can get a reducing die that take the diameter of .323 to .318 but it´s not a big problem and it works okay. If you need the loading information let me know. Sincerelly Gtrotz | |||
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I can hook you up with factory ammo loaded to RWS specifications except with Nosler or Swift bullets by September. Cheaper, better, etc. It is a nice round. Basically a 8mm-06. Think 338-06 as regards its abilities and uses. LD  | |||
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Thank you everyone for the responses. Sounds like what I thought, difficult, but not impossible. Seems to be a nice caliber, and the rifle itself is very nice. I knew enough to ask which diameter it was, and the shop said 318, bt, altough it is a good shop, I think they are just guessing. I will go back tomorrow and check (it is an hour plus drive, so I have to wait to find time) The rifle itself is exceptionally sweet, without any accomodation for a scope. So I would have to send it somewhere for as high mount, otherwise need to modify the bolt and safety. ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | |||
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This rifle sounds more like a collector's item than a mainline field piece. And, if you're like me and several other gun guys I know, you already have four or five different centerfire rifles that are plenty powerful. Therefore, if the rifle has open sights, why not leave the scope off it? Jason "Chance favors the prepared mind." | |||
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Went to the shop and had another look The rifle is stamped 8x60H.V. (???) Anybody know what this means? Interesting, the barrel is stamped "Made Specially for Chas. A. Heyer & Co. Niarobi" The action is stamped Mauser Obendorf Werke, I may have the sequence of the workds incorrect, but it is an original Mauser action, with the notch, so may be a military convert. In any event, I bought it, may re-barrel to a 7x57 or 9.3x62, because the bore is pretty shot out. Nice action, great stock... Any thoughts? ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | |||
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The HV probably stands for High Velocity as there is an 80x60s and an 8x60 magnum or bomb designation as I recall. It is the exact same case they just created a designation for ammo that was loaded to higher velocities. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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