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I have been looking for some 8x60 brass/ammunition and it seems to be quite scarce in the US. If memory serves me right there was an article in one of the gun magazines on the conversion of 30-06 brass to 8x60--does anyone know of a source for ammunition/brass or remember where the article was published? Thanks | ||
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I've been searching for ammo and brass, as well as quality rifles. RCBS makes forming dies to convert .30-06 to 8x60S. I am also looking into having some .30-06 basic brass custom stamped with 8x60S for just such a purpose. | |||
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Old Western Schrouger in CA hold RWS stuff in stock load at modern pressure ( same as 7x64 ) 8x60 is a nice powefull classic cartridge just need to check your barrel dia because 8x60 and 8x60 are very commun but first is in 0.318 second is in 0.323 I have a old Sako ( FN mauser ) in 8x60 0.318 company as DKT in USA make nice custom bullet for 0.318 bore good shooting DAN TEC | |||
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Dantec, Unfortunately, OWS does not have any 8x60 brass/amunition and has stopped carrying RWS. This leaves me in a situation to really strart scrounging. ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif){kind=icon} [ 11-01-2003, 14:44: Message edited by: Richard Saloom ] | |||
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i do not know if they export to the US but I got my brass from www.parabellum.no (norway) Great people, great service. Why dont you give them a call. Wonderful round: 250 grs woodleigh weldcore 49 grs of Vihtavuori N150 and 2390 fps.. Boha | |||
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Some other sources for German stuff in Europe are www.triebel.de and www.johannsen-jagd.de However, I would give www.huntingtons.com a try - they should have. .30-06 cases can be used for 8x60. It can be done in the sizer die, and then the case has to be shortened. Some light fireforming is recommendable. The length dimension are found here: http://www.reloadbench.com/cartspec.html Best regards, Fritz [ 11-02-2003, 18:30: Message edited by: Fritz Kraut ] | |||
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Eldeguello, Mine is a 8x60 S--I was hoping to get some loaded shell complete with headstamps to reduce possible future confusion. ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} I may well be pulling out the case trimmer. I tried to contact the Triebel site and got no reply. I may try the Johanssen and Parabellum sites in the next couple of days. | |||
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[QUOTE]Mine is a 8x60 S--I was hoping to get some loaded shell complete with headstamps to reduce possible future confusion.[QUOTE] I agree with your desire for an 8X60 headstamp! If you are concerned about using the ammo in the wrong gun yourself, you could make the 8x60S ammo out of nickel-plated brass, or using a red marking pen on the headstamp letters, or some such means, to differentiate them from other of your ammo! | ||
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quote:Well, the RWS factory loaded ammo is hellishly expensive but quite good. You could also buy empty new cases. Carcano (shooting a 8x60 S too) | |||
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quote:It wise yo get a stamped case, which still is made by RWS. However, another way is to order some .30-06 or 9,3x62 cases without stamping. Fritz Sako M98 8x60I (.318") Mannlicher-Schoenauer 8x60S (.323", "Magnum-Bombe") | |||
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I'll agree with Fritz. Use an 8x60 resizing die with 30-06 brass and then trim and fireform. It's actually one of the easiest case forming operations I do. Just keep 'em in MTM boxes that are clearly marked as to which gun they're to be used in. And just in case I need cases with a headstamp, I bit the bullet and paid OWS's outrageous prices for RWS brass. I'm kinda glad I did since it is questionable as to when RWS brass will be available again. If anyone out there has some loads for the 8x60S Mauser, I'd like to hear about them. I'm more intereseted in what powder you found useful rather than actual charge weight. I'm just starting to work up loads for mine, but even with iron sights, it's showing good accuracy potential. | |||
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quote:Norma 203-B has been good for my loads with a 196 grains S&B bullet. I use 51 grains, and get around 1 inch @100yds. IMR 4350 seems to be rather close to the Norma 203-B. Use data for the 8x57IS (8mm Mauser) and don�t go further than 1.5-2 grans over the max for that cartridge in an 8x60. Best regards, Fritz P.S. You can erase the stamping on the case with a Dremel tool. At least you should mark them with a marker pen. If you drop an 8x60 in a former Springfield case at the range and somebody put it in a .30-06, the result maybe worse than a 8mm bullet swaged to .308". | |||
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quote:Norma 203-B has been good for my loads with a 196 grains S&B bullet. I use 51 grains, and get around 1 inch @100yds. IMR 4350 seems to be rather close to the Norma 203-B. Use data for the 8x57IS (8mm Mauser) and don�t go further than 1.5-2 grans over the max for that cartridge in an 8x60. Best regards, Fritz P.S. You can erase the stamping on the case with a Dremel tool. At least you should mark them with a marker pen. If you drop an 8x60 in a former Springfield case at the range and somebody put it in a .30-06, the result may be worse than a 8mm bullet swaged to .308". | |||
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IMR-4350 is a great powder in any .30-06 size case. I use it exclusively in the 8x60, 7x64, and .30-06. You don't have to worry about pressure unless you are actually compressing the powder. | |||
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quote:I�m have no idea how the IMR-4350 loads, but in my rifle 52 grains of Norma 203-B was max charge. With 53 grs primers were flat and patterns really bad - about 5 or 6 inches. Best regards, Fritz [ 11-18-2003, 01:13: Message edited by: Fritz Kraut ] | |||
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[ 11-18-2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Fritz Kraut ] | |||
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I've been using 51 gr of IMR-4350, which fills the case to the base of the shoulder. I seat 250 gr Woodleighs down to the base of the neck. | |||
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These folks are in Utah. They stock RWS, give them a call they might be able to help you out. http://www.heritagearms.net/ | |||
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quote:Interesting load with a heavy bullet - what velocities do you get? B.R. Fritz | |||
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My guess is somewhere in the 2000-2500 fps area. I haven't had a chance to chronograph them yet. But anywhere in the above range would be fine for me. | |||
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I loaded some 236-grain bullets in my 8X60RS using trimmed RWS 7X65R brass with 52 grains of RE22. MV was 2000 FPS. | ||
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Richard, FYI, Natchez Supply is now importing RWS 8x60S brass. http://www.natchezss.com/ I am using this brass in my 8x60 SAKO, but resizing with a set of 0.318 dies Larry  | |||
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Hi Luckily found Your very good forum and this topic. Just bought a Sako high power rifle, 8*60J (.318). Some questions still left after reading all posts.. Found only Hornady die set for S, no other manufacturer makes them? Have you tried to make ammo with 8*57 dies? Bullet selection will be good after we get our tooling to press .323 bullets through calibrating die, and 30-06 brass is plentiful. Very nice to see You guys keeping the old high quality rifles still shooting. TimoJ Riihimaeki Finland A dud?? | |||
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I make 8X60S cases from .30/'06 brass by trimming it to 59mm O/A case length then running it through an RCBS 8X60S FL sizing die. Seems to be easy to do....... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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I ordered RWS 8X60S Brass and RCBS Dies from Huntingtons. THey had both in stock. http://www.huntingtons.com/cases_rws.html I have not started loading for mine yet. So no help there. | |||
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54JNoll, that is the same route I took with my Sako 8x60. The next problem is finding bullets. I have ended up ordering a batch of S&B 0.318 bullets via a friend in Germany. The Woodleigh 0.318 slugs are great, but hard to find. LLS | |||
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Hello Could You please give the die set number of rcbs dies? They are no more listed in catalog. Thank You TimoJ Finland A dud?? | |||
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Timo, I would suggest you contact Dave Davison at CH4D (http://www.ch4d.com). They have the dies listed I believe. I bought their 12,7x70 Schüler dies and they are makeing 9,3x63 dies for me as we speak. Good quality and perfect service. Prices are OK even with toll and ALV. Boha | |||
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Hi Boha Thank You for the link. Did not remember CH made dies. Just dropped email to Dave in hope to get one set in. Ty guys. TimoJ Finland A dud?? | |||
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My 8X60 has the S bore so finding bulelts will be a little easier although no one has them locally. Looks Like a Midway order. Sorry, I do not know what the dies set order number is. I called Huntington's number and talked with them over the phone. I was told they had RCBS 8X60S in stock. I said put them in the box along with the Brass. | |||
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