A friend and I are heading out to Idaho for an elk hunt next week. I noticed he is shooting 30-06 150 grain Hornaday IB Bullets. Am I out in left field or is the Hornaday IB more like a ballistic tip, meant for deer not elk? I shoot the Barnes TSX bullets (all cailbers)and am not familiar with the Hornaday Bullet.

It is too late for him to switch, other than were he places the shot. I think with the TSX I can pretty much hit the elk in the shoulder and drop him with my 338 Win Mag (Fed Premium Barnes 225 TSX). Not sure at all the Hornaday IB will be able to do that. Don't think the 30-06 caliber has the energy nor do I think the bullet will be a deep penetrating type.

I sure could use some feedback on this as I want my friend take an elk and this bullet may limit some of the shot placement opportunities he has. If so he needs to know it.

BHW the Hornady InterBond is more like the Nosler Accu-Bond. But in my opinion the 180 would have been a much better choice of bullet for Elk.

But hitting an Elk right in the shoulder ruins a lot of meat unnecessarily hitting them right where the rear line of the leg meets the chest you're much more likely to hit the heart.

bhw, worry not,it should do the job if he places it rite,i''m no expert but some people can shoot and some can''t, 150''s would be lite 4 me and i''m with you i''d go tripple shock but thats 2 people out of thousands, some rifles shoot them very good and some dont, ive got some to load but haven''t got the time as yet... lots of good reports on noslers accubond,but give hornady its due they make great bullets, example weatherby has used hornady interlocks for manny years in their hotter than american factory loads made for them by norma. theres always going to be a debate on something..... hope i helped regards jjmp

Fine for deer but marginal on Elk.I see nothing wrong with the 30-06 but would opt for heavier premium bullets when Elk are included in the bag.

When they first came out I bought some 140's for my 7-08. At 2980 average fps. After shooting 2 antelope that season I wrote NFG on the box and use them for fouling rounds only.

I keep trying to get away from the Barnes X's, but find nothing with such a good BC, accuracy and performance on game

I've read good and poor on the interbonds but I'd sure be using 180 grain bullets on elk.

Fear not....if he shoots well the elk will die.

The HIB exbands quickly & penetration is reduced quite a bit w/ the lighter bullets on heavier game. I would want the 180gr if he is set on the HIB. I could live w/ a 165gr in a SXT, NAB, NP or NF. 150gr 308 are deer bullets.

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Originally posted by WY:
When they first came out I bought some 140's for my 7-08. At 2980 average fps. After shooting 2 antelope that season I wrote NFG on the box and use them for fouling rounds only.

I keep trying to get away from the Barnes X's, but find nothing with such a good BC, accuracy and performance on game

WY,

I'm really courious. I've never used any premium bullet for hunting but can't imagine what went wrong with a 140gr IB in your 7mm -08?

DOn, the HIB isn't really a "premium" bullet. I would say the premium bullets start w/ the NP, Swift, etc. Being bonded makes them not shed their core, but in the case of the HIB, it causes a very large mushroom that w/o enough weight/momentum, can seriously reduce penetration. I'll bet WY got very shallow penetration & was dissapointed w/ that. I think the NAB is a bit better in design, but I really like the NP or NFs.

Not to be picky, but there is no 140 grain .284" Hornady Interbond bullet, 139 grains it is. I use the .284" 154 grain Interbond for whitetails and it works well. From what I've seen of it, it would probably be adequate for elk. Based on many head of plains game, elk and hogs taken, JJHACK is a proponent of the 30 caliber 165 grain Hornady Interbond in the '06.

Don,

The Hornady expanded VERY rapidly on antelope. Almost a blow up.

jackfish,

You are right about the 139 grains. Sort of like a Hornadyism. I was just going with the flow of the question.

Now here's the funny part in all the various tests done in the mags the Hornady retains more weight than the Nosler bonded core/polymer tipped types- why do people say the Noslers are better other than opinion? They retain more weight and make a larger wound cavity than partitions, yet the partitions are the bullet?

I've had great luch using Hornady bullets for their intended purpose, and a 150 isn't intended for Elk.

My Elk loads all have TSX's on top. .270 WSM or 8x57

I appreciate everyones input on this. I convinced my friend to switch. I bought him three boxes of the 165 grain Fed Premium TSX's and we are going to the range Sunday. I would have got him the 180's but they didn't have any at Gander Mountain here is Greensboro,NC. The 165 TSX will be a major improvement in my opinion for elk over the 150 HIB.

Thanks to everyone.

Hi

I have interbonds in 7mm, 0.3 and 0.458. Bloody marvellous bullet. the reason that they mushroom too quick for a lot af US hunters is that they are velocity it far too high. I shoot African plainsgame which should be as tough as an elk with no problems. Reduce the velocity from 3100fps to 2850 fps, the high BC should keep the trajectory fine out to 300 yds and the bullet wont mushroom so quickly.
As an asside I would prefer the 180 gn at 2700 fps for larger deer species if given the choice.

Regards

Mark

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Originally posted by Planemech:
Now here's the funny part in all the various tests done in the mags the Hornady retains more weight than the Nosler bonded core/polymer tipped types- why do people say the Noslers are better other than opinion? They retain more weight and make a larger wound cavity than partitions, yet the partitions are the bullet?

Three manufacturers different ideas on bullet contruction.

The Interbond and the original Scirocco keep thier weight but the huge mushroom limits penetration as others here have already noted. Great for deer, less so for Elk unless it's a heavy for caliber bullet.

Swift has stiffened up the Scirocco II to solve this.

Nosler premiums lose weight so the smaller mushroom will penetrate. Nosler believes that the bullet fragmentation helps with terminal performance.