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Would the country's national ordinance factory make lee enfield rifles in 7.62/308 in 1968. Just saw one at a guns shop for $250. Mike | ||
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These are the well known Ishapore 2/2A. They are perfectly fine with true 7.62x51Nato rounds. They were a stop-gap while converting troops to FN FALs. They're made from a better steel. They're NOT made to fire 308W. | |||
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If you look at the history of firearms in India it is quite interesting and full of paradox / contradictions. India had a firearm industry from the 14th century! Indian armies of the Rajas had muskets when the British started trading there in the 1600s. In the 1950s, the Ishapore factory was assembling BSA 12 bore shotguns from parts out of Birmingham, where the factory was shut down. They also refurbished ex-military Mauser 98 in 8X57 and sold them under the .315 label. I know of people who have shot tigers with such rifles in the 1960s & 70s. Here is another new rifle they started making in the last 5 years or so!     Yes it is a copy of the Sauer 200 or 202. It is a rough finish. The 3 lug bolt is crude and has visible weld marks. The stock is obviously too low and so it boots like hell. The pressed checkering is ugly as hell. It is not blued but has some sort of an industrial paint finish. But that is all that is available to the locals. It shoots ok with open sights. It weighs like an anchor! That rifle belongs to a friend of mine & I handled it with some anguish. It cost him about US$3,000 in 2011. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Naki: Thanks for posting! There are a lot of obscure guns made around the world which are not widely known. I assumed that India had a fairly robust military arms industry, but did not know that they produced any sporting arms. The drop in that (Monte Carlo!) stock is, shall we say, extraordinary! What could they have been thinking? | |||
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IS it a good rifle ? I am tempted to buy it ? Mike | |||
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..an Indian styled Sauer 202.. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Brits had a sniper rifle in 7.62x51 made on the No4 Enfield action for many years (called the L42A1) which was only phased out from about 1985 onward. The Indian one was based on the No 1 Mk III* or something. If they were new manufacture, they'd probably be fine, although I doubt that reloading for them would be all that successful, since the actions are said to be springy. As a conversation piece, probably worth having. I'd be careful of Afghan versions, though.  -- Promise me, when I die, don't let my wife sell my guns for what I told I her I paid for them. | |||
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$.02 These are a neat oddity, and probably a bit of a project. Only you can answer if they're something you want to pursue. Do you reload? There's a bit of a logistics problem. You're probably painfully aware, 7.62Nato surplus prices have soared in recent years. Commercial .308Win is not recommended as it operates at a higher pressure. Unfortunately, since the "collectibles" craze of the 90's with baseball cards and comic books and the like, some people have ridiculously inflated views of the value and history behind their guns. You'll need a thick skin, with mil-surps, ANYTHING you do to the rifle will probably be pooped all over by naysayers. Example - Do you clean the flaking, black paint off? And on and on and on... Head over to surplusrifleforums for anything else you care to know. Ishy Love Good Luck! | |||
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Jens that is one ugly rifle, for 3 grand to boot,  | |||
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