I was looking at some of the load data Barnes had on their site and noticed these loads for 130gr bullets at the top of their PDF.

The max velocities for both the powders listed for the 130gr bullets really surprised me.

They list 3638fps for H4350 and 3666fps for Ramshot Hunter. Both of those powders I would more likely expect to see in a 30-06 loadings.

Just wondered if anyone has tried these loadings and what they found.

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/300WbyMagWeb.pdf

I have used H4350 in my Wby 300. It was with 168gr and 180 gr TSX. Works very good.

Can't comment on the powders, but I HAVE used the 130gr TTSX factory loads on paper (didn't get to shoot them at anything living). That barrel gets flippin H O T really fast, like burn your hands hot after 2-3 rounds. Factory claims I THINK 3750 or something, not sure I didn't shoot them over the chrony. But oddly enough they were fairly accurate in my 24" M70 300 Wby. Recoil was nothing at all, and the trajectory is a laser beam of a load if there ever was one.

Interesting observation about the heat. Didn't expect that.

I didn't realize WBY had these in a factory round. Thanks for the heads up. Factory WBY specs for the 130ttsx 300WBY is at 3650fps according to WBY's site.

Momentum of the 130ttsx at this speed is essentially equivalent to a 180gr bullet at 30-06 speed. Lots more energy but if the bullet holds together (which it should) I suspect this would be a really good beanfield round for our South Carolina deer.

I'm not recoil sensitive but the advantage of low recoil/high performance is enticing.

They're pricey though, I think I paid around 75$ per box for these. It was fun to play with, when I'm back up and running with my reloading gear I think I'm going to play with the 130's again, but I'll probably use RL22, get a little bit more speed

RL-22 is the powder I've been most successful getting my best accuracy with in the 300WBY. I use 80 Grains of it to push a 180gr Accubond. I like RL-22.

That being said, it's a slower burning powder than 4350. Honest question. Why would you expect RL-22 to push the 130gr TTSX faster than 4350?

RL "should" push any bullet weight faster. While the 130 IS a light bullet, remember its a TSX so its incredibly long for the weight. I've never put them side by side, maybe someone who has some can, but I'd imagine the length, and there for the bearing surface, to be more similar to a standard 150/165gr bullet.

I don't have my notes on the loads anymore, but I do know that RL22 was a few hundred FPS faster then 4350 when I tested them with 165gr bullets out of a 24" barrel 300 Weatherby. Big load too, I do remember that, somewhere around 86-87gr's and honestly I think I could have even gone just a hair more.

Interesting. If I had some data on loading this bullet with Rl-22 I'd be more likely to try it.

I would think Rel 22 and 25, Retumbo, and H1000 might all be worth a look.

Well what do you know, I was wrong!

Just checked the Barnes manual, they didn't test RL22. But IMR4350 has the highest velocity of all the powders tested. 87.0 @ 3693 max load in the book

I load the 130 grain TSX in 300 Win from the second Barnes manual with W760. It reaches 3600 fps in the book and 3610 fps over my chronograph. I always wondered why they didn't try harder to beat that speed in 300 Weatherby loadings. Either way I was surprised that 760 was the velocity champ but it works as advertised.

Lawyers I'd assume. It seems every new reloading book that comes out, even old loads get smaller and slower. I have heard Norma loads up the factory stuff to 70k, and I doubt any reloading manual is going to go that high.

True enough but in this case they still have the 300 Win data in the latest manual. I think someone got to 3693 and said "screw it, if they want faster than that they can burn their own powder".

I haven't had the opportunity to Chrony the loads yet but I've used the Barnes 130 gr. TTSX in my Blaser R93 300 Witherbee 25.6" barrel and shot game with it.

Outa my barrel this is truly an accurate screamer load when packed with either AA-4350, IMR-4350 or H-4831sc. I also used a Lee FCD and crimped the bullet in the foremost relief groove. All three loads shot well under 1 MOA.

I don't think it prudent for me to openly state the loads per say as I obtained results with more powder than recommended on the Barnes website. As we know, every barrel is a law unto itself.

Net, I shot two Hinds (Red Deer Cows) and a Spike (very large bodied) Red Deer Stag with this bullet and yes, they all dropped to the shot as if struck by lightning and never twitched.

Would this be my first bullet choice for game this large? Not really, but it was what I had on hand when the events occured. I didn't get an exit wound on all three and even spent considerable time attempting to recover the bullets; couldn't manage that either.

Yeah, they work and I'm pretty sure at good velocity, too.

I've currently noted the H-4831sc load as the best and that's what I've stuck with but could be the quicker bunrners give a tad more velocity, too. I'll know when I put 'em over the screens.

Thank you Gerry. Sounds like this actually might be a good bullet for our South Carolina Deer. Most of our deer aren't much bigger than a Roe Deer.

Yo Big Guy,

Well, you hit the Nail on the Head - that's exactly what happened. We were on a Roe Deer hunt and got Red Deer lucky.

Truthfully, I was kinda concerned that I was seriously over-cartridged although we were in Eastern Germany and the shots we were gonna be presented with were, at range - in huge grain fields - so I figured WTF-Over? My 2 Buddies had 300 Win Mags and myself a Weatherby.

To blood the combination I first shot a Fox - at fairly extended yardage and they're just @ 4" high in the X-Ring so that boosted my confidence in the shoe-string trajectory.

Yeah, it got the job done on 3 VERY large Deer but like you said, for up to Whitetail (especially your South Carolina deer) you may be on to something; sorta Beanfield-ish.

The good thing about the Barnes is they tend to not break up or come apart so you'll probably get pretty good Cookie-Cutter exit wounds on the size game you're referring to and some real speed, too Boot.

Try 'em and let us know how they work.

Waidmannsheil!

Waidmannsheil Gerry!

If I get to try them I will let you know.