To you that own one of the new M77 African.
How is the recoil with the light contour barrel. thanks

I had one; recoil is the same as any other 9.3 of the same weight, to say, not bad at all. This caliber does not have a heavy recoil; keep in mind that recoil has two components; energy and velocity. Large/medium bores of medium capacity like the 9.3x62 have low recoil velocity; hence the felt recoil is not high. ( I build a lot of 93s.)

My Ruger 9.3 African shooting 280 grn round nose has noticeably more recoil then any 3.3" cartridge I own and IMO it out kicks my 7 RM by a good ways as well

Does anyone notice recoil when shooting at game?

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Does anyone notice recoil when shooting at game?

When hunting rifles have no recoil and make no noise.
Until later.

I had a CZ bolt gun in 9,3, and found the recoil reasonable for about 20 rounds off the bench, wearing a pad. Certainly less than a .375 H&H.
But Tom is right -- it is more a heavy thrust than a sharp slap. You'll never notice it when hunting.

Thanks to everyone

Worst kicking rifle I ever had was a Ruger 77 in 9,3x62.

Sold it.

My Mauser weighs a good bit less and is a joy to shoot. All about the stock design. The Ruger did not have enough pitch.

In the right rifle, the 9,3x62 is not a hard kicker.

I dig the 9.3 recoil...you look at that little case and when you feel that solid smack on your shoulder you know something good is happening...

The 338 is like “whack!!” “How you like me
Now???!!”

My 9,3x62 CZ 550 American w/Kevlar stock is easier on my shoulder than my 300 Win Mag. Just a big shove as opposed to a very hard slap. Without a past pad, I can make about 12 to 15 shots off the bench with the CZ and only 5 or 6 shots tops with my 300 Winnie without a pad. I wanted a Ruger 77 but the wait was too long so, I settled for the CZ and glad I did. It is accurate.

to me its about the same as a 30-06 and max loaded 220 gr. bullets..A fine caliber for short to medium ranges..Ive shot a lot of game with one, but must say I like the 375 H&H and .338 a little better, just my take..

As to nobody notices recoil when shooting at game is just not right, happens a lot and long tracking episodes are the result..If you flinch at the bench or shooting cans, you will flinch when you shoot at game, you just don't notice it in many cases..but you flinch and you wound..

A flinch is the shooters nightmare, caused as a rule by recoil or noise, its mental and once developed its damn hard to conquer..

I been looking at 2 9.3s.
One is a new Ruger M77 african and the other is a nice custom built on a Mark x action with a littleheavier barrel and nice NECG sights and classic stock.
Im leaning towards the Mark X. Thanks everyone

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Originally posted by ho:
I been looking at 2 9.3s.
One is a new Ruger M77 african and the other is a nice custom built on a Mark x action with a littleheavier barrel and nice NECG sights and classic stock.
Im leaning towards the Mark X. Thanks everyone

Ruger has now made two different versions of the African in 9.3x62. The current Lipsey’s special run has a much lighter barrel contour than the earlier version, and they can differ in weight north of a pound.

I would buy the rifle you like best, then work up loads gradually so you adjust to a little more recoil each session. I did that when I was developing loads for my .458 Lott and could soon handle 20 shots of maximum loads off the bench in one session. Just work up at a pace that works for you.

Dale thats what im thinking to. thanks

As Colorado Matt referred to above, there were two Ruger 9.3x62s made, and one was heavier than the other, with the Lipseys model being the lightest. I like the lighter one personally. I really enjoy carrying light trim rifles. To me, the 9.3x62 has little recoil, so in a lighter rifle, it doesn't really matter.

As recoil is personal, any one person's evaluation is not transferable to the next guy. I shoot and hunt with a number of higher recoiling rounds, like 375 Ruger and H&H, 450/400, 416 Ruger and Rigby, 404 Jeffery, 458 Lott, 470 Capstick, and 505 Gibbs. So, to me, an 8-8 1/2 lb. 9.3 (with scope & rings), is a pleasant shooting rifle. My 404 Jeffery & 458 Lott both weigh 8 1/2 lbs. and I have taken them to Africa a number of times.

If a 9.3x62 is the highest recoiling rifle a person has ever shot, it will probably be perceived as a hard kicker. My advice is to shoot more powerful rifles. You will then come to love your mild mannered 9.3!

Compared with rifles that burn more powder to achieve much the same thing, yes, the 9.3x62 does have moderate recoil. However, if made up into a lighter rifle, that advantage will be lost. So yes, they do kick and though you won't feel it when shooting at big game, any flinch acquired at the range may raise its ugly head when hunting.

Make yourself a pussypad for shooting at the bench, to save yourself developing a nasty flinch. My favorite is a medical gel pad behind some grainy, white plastic packaging about 9mm thick, wrapped sideways around the butt and held in place with electrical tape. This makes a bulbous protection, wider than the buttplate and it really takes the sting out of recoil. Take it off when you go hunting, of course, but if you are really intent on hitting your animal, you won't feel much through the bare recoil pad.

I’ve got the new Lipsey’s version. No more felt recoil than 30/06.

Replace the recoil pad with something that actually absorbs recoil and it’s a complete pussycat to shoot.

I absolutely love mine

The 9.3 x 57 has negative recoil.
The 9.3 x 62 has about zero recoil.
My 9.3 x 64 recoils a bit less than a 375 H&H.
Best answer is to get a 6.5 Creedmoor. I hear those will kill anything on earth.

As I stated above, I own two Ruger Lipsey's African 9.3x62s, as well as a Dakota, Sako, more Rugers and a bunch of CZs from their custom shop and also from Wayne's AHR #3 packages. I personally don't feel much difference in recoil in any of them. But again, that is just me. No one can judge felt recoil for someone else. We are all individuals. This Lipsey's 9.3 will feel like a kicking mule to some I suppose, and a pussycat to others. YMMV.

If one cannot shoot a Ruger African model 9.3x62 then he or she should stick with a 7x57 or less...

BTW the new Lipskys 9.3x62 come with a detachable muzzle brake..that should solve any problems with recoil you might have..

Ray, the Lipsey's 9.3x62 did not come with a muzzle brake, like the other Ruger Africans do. At least my two do not have a brake. I would not have bought one if it had the brake, but that's just my personal preference.

The original release of Ruger African 9.3x62s had no muzzle brakes either. I own two of those. Later, Ruger did add (and currently still do) muzzle brakes to their entire line of Africans in all calibers. I was lucky (for me) and bought two of the original Ruger African 375 Rugers with no muzzle brakes also.

The main difference in the Lipsey's current run of Africans (275 Rigby, 6.5x55 & 9.3x62) from the current Ruger company Africans, is that the Lipsey's rifles have: no muzzle brakes, 24" barrels, blued bolt, black forend tip, about 1/2-1 lb. lighter (smaller contour barrel), folding rear sight, and brass bead front sight.

Personally, I love this Lipsey's model much more than the current Ruger company African model. I would however, prefer the non-folding rear sight and white bead front sight, like the ones on the current regular African model.

Lipsey's, can you hear me? Please read my last paragraph before your next/new 2020 model.

I am anxious to see what the next caliber will be. Like I predicted last year (and was wrong!) I will venture a guess of:.......30-06. What say you folks?

Ruger will make you anything you want if you order 100 of them at a time. Put together an AR mass buy; simple.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Ruger will make you anything you want if you order 100 of them at a time. Put together an AR mass buy; simple.

ooooh! An AR mass buy?

OK, I won't hijack this thread, but I will start a new one based on this thought!

I had a couple of the early 9.3x62s, but thought all of the later ones came with muzzle brakes..I'm getting to where I really appreciate muzzle brakes on big bores..I recently shot a Ruger .338 African with a brake and its a dream to shoot when working up loads and sighting in, and you can take it off and put the thread protector cap on it for hunting and toss that weight they give you, so far it hasn't been needed on any of my Rugers..I just bought a .338 African on AR from a fine gent and looking forward to fixing it up and it has a muzzle brake..The 9.3x62 never bothered me, but the .338 Win is iffy on a bad day..My Ruger 1S is definatly a kicker, but not bad enough to stick a muzzle brake on it..

Saw a NIB Ruger African 9.3x62 yesterday. Very tempting. I thought it felt great handling. Had a thinner barrel and no muzzle brake. I'm glad Ruger is making these

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Originally posted by Buglemintoday:
Saw a NIB Ruger African 9.3x62 yesterday. Very tempting. I thought it felt great handling. Had a thinner barrel and no muzzle brake. I'm glad Ruger is making these

Quick! Hit the 'buy' button.

I may go back and buy it. I've never seen one in person before. Even the .275 Rigby version, .223 or 6.5x55

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Originally posted by Buglemintoday:
I may go back and buy it. I've never seen one in person before. Even the .275 Rigby version, .223 or 6.5x55

Some day, these will be hard to find. I own all of the above you just mentioned. The 275 Rigby 'stamp' on the barrel is just so unique, and the 223 is the perfect training rifle for an African safari, for both recoil reduction & cost of training ammo. Those two are very hard to find currently. However, the 9.3x62 and 6.5x55 are very available...for now. And what a pair they would make for a two-rifle African battery of a light and medium bore. Plus, both are very light weight, trim stocked rifles, a joy to carry all day.

Don't hesitate. Buy them while they're still on the market. They will soon be as hard to find as the 275 Rigby and the 223. Just sayin'.

Thanks for the responses Surefire! What do you think about the African in 9.3x62? Have you shot yours much/ hunted with it?

There is a Ruger African .223 on GB right now starting bid $1295 NIB...I need to quit looking...2 days left on auction

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Originally posted by Buglemintoday:
Thanks for the responses Surefire! What do you think about the African in 9.3x62? Have you shot yours much/ hunted with it?

I really love this Lipsey's African 9.3x62. It is the lightest, trimmest, 9.3 I own. The recoil for me, is negligible. The accuracy is outstanding. I have not hunted with it yet.

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Originally posted by Buglemintoday:
There is a Ruger African .223 on GB right now starting bid $1295 NIB...I need to quit looking...2 days left on auction

The only one I have seen on the internet is selling for $1595. So....

My latest is a Ruger no.1-S in .338 Win. its a dream rifle, and I love the Alex Hendry forends, the barrel band iron sight and island rear and the 26" barrel, its band swivel, its African styling Aka English style..I had one years ago, and they are damn hard to find anymore..I stuck a 2.5x8 Leupold on it, and if its accurate it will be my new elk rifle..Not to mention how nice and flat it is to fit in a saddle scabbard...

Sounds like you've found a new lease on life, Ray. I thought you'd backed off to .25-35s and stuff like that.

I have never really noticed recoil or muzzle blast for that matter when shooting at game but from a bench rest I notice both.