Has anyone used the 185gr CL in an 8x57 on deer? I have a custom guild rifle built on a WWI Danzig action that I'd like to use this year. I assume they are a suitable bullet, but I'm going to be loading to relatively mid-low pressure range and if this bullet was designed for 8mm Rem Mag velocity, it may not perform the way I want it to. Just looking for some insight.

Haven't specifically used the 8mm, but I have used Corelokts in many other calibers and they have always did the job well.

gzig5 I have used the 185 gr Rem bullet in the 8x57 on a whitetail. The bullet passed through on a broadside shot. The deer traveled about 25 yds. I don't think I would use the 185 gr bullet in any of the 8mm mags but in the 8x57 or 8mm06 it is good.

Gzig5,
Yes I have. It's a wonderful bullet in the 8x57. Shoots all the way through and does plenty of damage along the way.
dmw

I shoot them out of my semi sporter 98 at 2550 several deer and bear say they work very well at that speed.

I think they are a very good 8x57 bullrt.

I shot a nice black bear with a 308 win with a 180 corelock at about 225 yards. Hit right under the chin, head on and stopped in the rear leg. The bullet was a pciture perfect mushroom. I would expect the 8x57 to do the same with a 185 core lokt.

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Originally posted by gzig5:
...I'm going to be loading to relatively mid-low pressure range....

the Remington factory 8mm mauser load is moderate pressure, did you want less?

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Originally posted by delloro:

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Originally posted by gzig5:
...I'm going to be loading to relatively mid-low pressure range....

the Remington factory 8mm mauser load is moderate pressure, did you want less?

The action is a small ring, large thread which aren't generally considered as strong as LR/LT or SR/ST. I plan to load to pressure appropriate for the action and not hot rod it as I might for the same caliber in a modern action. I have some 170gr round nose Remington factory loads that I can reference velocity-wise if needed, but that stuff doesn't shoot well so far and I'm hoping to improve on the accuracy aspect with a decent non-premium bullet. The barrel is original military and seems to foul pretty badly even though it doesn't look bad to the eye. I might try fire-lapping after having some success with other rifles. Basically I want to get the old girl out in the field again and I place a premium on consistent accuracy. The rifle was brought back by my wife's grandfather after WW2 and has some sentimental value. The barrel may be beyond hope, but I have a good supply of these bullets and if they aren't considered too tough (which it sounds like they aren't) I'll give them a try. If I can get it to group at least 4" for five shots at 100yds, it will should serve well for popping an extra doe this season in the thick stuff. I leave the long range work to my .280.

PS... I've had good results with Core-Lokts in other calibers in the past but the specter of the 8mm mag drove me to ask the question. I appreciate the responses and will go forward with working up a factory level load.

I've used the 8x57 Rem factory loads on deer , black bear, moose and zebra and would use them again.

I use a lot of the Rem 185's. Mostly in full power 8x57 loads where I find its performance to be superb. I also use a lot of them in moderate 8x57 loads that I use in my 96 based 8x57's. However, in those 96's I mostly plink. I would probably test out the 185 in some type of medium at those speeds to see if expansion is adequate.

This is a 100 yd open sight group I shot using the 185's.



Though underpowered, those 170 Rems have been very accurate in almost every 8x57 I have used them in.

I had exactly the same issue with my Erfurt Mauser, wanting to keep pressures on the lower end. I was concerned with the lower velocity making the Remington bullet work so opted for the 180 gr Ballistic Tip. With CFE223 data from Hodgdon's site I landed on a 2500 fps (19" barrel) load that worked fine on my son's impala. I believe the Nosler Proshop has seconds right now. They are what I used.

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Though underpowered, those 170 Rems have been very accurate in almost every 8x57 I have used them in.

This is what I'm afraid of. I haven't played with the factory ammo a lot but with the scope I had a five shot group that was 4" tall by 7" wide. Could be the scope though which is an antique. I need to try the iron sights next time.

Boxhead, I had considered the Nosler BT for those very reasons. I'll see how these Rem 185's do first though.

I have shot a few hogs with the 185CL out of a sporterized 98 8x57 everything worked great

Well, I scrubbed the bore for a week and got a ton of copper out of it. Went back to the range with the factory 170's and handload of the 185 Rem PSP-CL over 45gr H4895. Pressure seems reasonable and I got a couple of 2" groups at 100yds before I ran out of ammo. The 170's shot better too, but are definitely a lighter load. Had some trouble getting the windage on the scope zero'd and will need one more trip to the range. The scope mount is a type of quick release claw that I've never seen before and the windage is mechanical. The scope only has elevation adjustment. Someone messed with the locking lug on the rear mount and I had to make a spacer so it pulls down firmly.

Here is a picture of the rifle. The stock is a Fajen duplicate of the original which cracked through the wrist thirty years ago.


This is a pic of the scope and mounts. Anyone seen this type before?

Those 185 SP CL were the "way to go" until Hornady came out with a 195 Spire Point.

Both work very good on game.

if anyone interested i have 12 boxes brand new 8x57js rws,196 grain ,great ammo,and allarounder for NA

Everything I have read a/ b the 185 CL in the 8 mag says that is was a disaster b/ c it was too soft at 8 mag velocities. Test it and see how it performs at your velocity .

Just a quick suggestion or favor to ask of you. I bought a box of Remington Core Lokt 8mm 220 grainers. In my 8x56 MS they went "poof" rather than "crack". Then I noticed the bullets on the rounds in the magazine were pushed back in the case. I measured the bullet diameters-they were .321" to .3213". Kind of strange but do they do that for liability purposes?

Try some of this and get it down to an inch!!!

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...solvent-5-oz-aerosol

The only way this barrel is going to shoot into an inch is at 10 yards. Actually it's probably not that bad. I think the scope is the major culprit.