THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM MEDIUM BORE RIFLE FORUM

Accuratereloading.com    The Accurate Reloading Forums    THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS  Hop To Forum Categories  Rifles  Hop To Forums  Medium Bore Rifles    Found the right elk load in the 300 Wby Vanguard with a new Timney trigger

Moderators: Paul H
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
Found the right elk load in the 300 Wby Vanguard with a new Timney trigger
 Login/Join
 
One of Us
posted
This year I'll be using 77 grains of IMR4350 behind a 180 grain Barnes TTSX bullet in a 24" barrel Vanguard as my elk load. After installing a Timnry trigger that took way less than 1/2 an hour with several adjustments the group st 100 yards with 3 shots was a single hole maybe 45 caliber in diameter. I didnt think 3 .30 caliber bullets could be thst close from this rifle but thr next 2 were touching the bottom of the hole for sometimg like a 1/2" 5 shot group.

When the weather cools I'll see how it does at 600 or more yards on a 1,000 yard range to get ready. I'll br using a Zeiss 600 yard reticle on a 3x9×50 conquest and am anxious to seehow it works.
 
Posts: 299 | Location: California | Registered: 10 January 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Should kill elk nicely.
 
Posts: 19735 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of graybird
posted Hide Post
I've shot a couple elk with a 180 gr TSX out of my 300 WM. you should be pleasantly surprised with your choice of bullet.


Graybird

"Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning."
 
Posts: 3722 | Location: Okie in Falcon, CO | Registered: 01 July 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of jorge
posted Hide Post
What velocities are you getting? I've been shooting the 300 Weatherby for over twenty years and IMR 4350 is on the fast side for that cartridge. Just watch the pressure. I can recommend a real good fast, safe and accurate load using T or TTSXs if you'd like. jorge


USN (ret)
DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
DSC Life Member
NRA Life Member

 
Posts: 7149 | Location: Orange Park, Florida. USA | Registered: 22 March 2001Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
I've used one grain less (76 gr IMR 4350) with 180s for decades. I get about 2975 fps from 24" bbls (2). I'm using WBY brass here and not the slightest pressure indication.

My Remington .300 WBY brass is much thicker, heavier, and holds about 8 grains less 4350. I will not be loading them with 76 gr 4350 for 180s.

It's almost as if we're looking at two different cartridges. http://forums.accuratereloadin...3221043/m/4341051091

Sam
 
Posts: 670 | Location: Dover-Foxcroft, ME | Registered: 25 May 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of buffybr
posted Hide Post
My .300 Weatherby Vanguard likes IMR 7828 and H4831sc powders with 168 and 180 gr TSX and TTSX bullets for hunting, and 168 gr Hornady BTHP bullets for practice. I'm getting 3250-3290 fps with the 168 gr bullets and 3190 fps with the 180 gr TSXs.

I also load 166 gr cast bullets with SR 4759 powder for 100 yd "field position" practice, and 150 gr Hornady BT-FMJ bullets with IMR 4350 for small critters (like African Civet) that I don't want to put too large a hole into.

I've only used my .300 Wby on three hunts. One of them was an elk hunt, and the 168 gr TSX tight behind a bull's shoulder made him DRT in 3 steps.

Last summer, a Sable bull was able to run about 30 yds with a 168 gr TTSX bullet through both of his shoulders before he fell dead.

I big game hunted about 40 years before I bought my .300 Weatherby. I just wish I would have bought it 30 years ago.


NRA Endowment Life Member
 
Posts: 1640 | Location: Boz Angeles, MT | Registered: 14 February 2006Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I haven't run them through the chrony yet but of 8 loads I tried this was the only one that showed real promise. The first group with this load and a terrible trigger was about an inch. All of the others including the factory round were 2"+ with some downright awful. Reloading for me isn't an academic exercise or a quest for perfection in a rifle. Once I have found an accurate load near the capability of the round that is consistently under an inch it is time to go hunting. I know that some rifles shoot many loads well and just aren't picky but this one didn't seem like it would fall into that category. To be able to put the first 3 shots into a single hole was a pleasant surprise.

With the scarcity of powder in my area and high cost to ship online orders I will probably never get around to trying Retumbo or 7828 although I'm sure they would produce better velocities. Being able to hit 12" gongs past 500 yards from field positions is what will tell me that it is elk ready.


I bought the gun because it was such a bargain and I wanted a different back up for my 7 mag. Getting the same basic ballistic performance using 180 gr vs. 150's in 7 Rem Mag with the ttsx is probably going to move the 300 Wby to 1st string. I wasn't thinking of that until I replaced the trigger. The difference is huge between the crisp clean feel of the Timney and the mushy factory trigger that broke over 5 lbs.

Thanks for the input I can't wait to see results on elk hopefully I won't have to wait past November.
 
Posts: 299 | Location: California | Registered: 10 January 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
My brother's 300 Wby (Mk V) likes IMR4350 under a 180 Grand Slam. Shoots 3/4 MOA at 100 yds.
 
Posts: 1366 | Location: Houston, TX | Registered: 10 February 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Heat
posted Hide Post
The accuracy sounds good but that is a REALLY stout load.

Ken....


"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan
 
Posts: 5386 | Location: Phoenix Arizona | Registered: 16 May 2006Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of rnovi
posted Hide Post
For what it's worth, I used a 180tsx out of my .300 H&H at 2,950 fps (26" bbl) in Africa last year.

On the two Kudu I shot, the first one took three shots of which only one exited.

1. First shot: Right side, angling into the left shoulder. Bullet broke up (ie: sheared all petals) on the shoulder socket. Shot distance: 265 yards. Appx 30" of penetration.

2. Second shot: Left Side, angled forward, exited the lower front of the chest. Shot distance: 280 yards.

(*now he started running.)

3. Third shot: across a ravine, he was coming up the far side with his back to me. Shot 6" left of spine, angling foward into the right shoulder. Bullet found just under the skin after shattering the socket. Bullet sheared all petals. No exit. appx 30" of penetration.


On the second Kudu I had a perfect broadside shot at 287 yards. Tucked the shot in tight on the right side and destroyed the left shoulder on the way out. 1" exit wound. Appx 24" of penetration before exiting.

Hope that helps.


Regards,

Robert

******************************
H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer!
 
Posts: 2321 | Location: Greater Nashville, TN | Registered: 23 June 2006Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 

Accuratereloading.com    The Accurate Reloading Forums    THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS  Hop To Forum Categories  Rifles  Hop To Forums  Medium Bore Rifles    Found the right elk load in the 300 Wby Vanguard with a new Timney trigger

Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia