Whats the best all round bullet for the 7x57 to be used for game 300# and under?Range 200yards and under.Will the 140gr. be about equal with the 270 with 130gr.as far as performance on game?Should rifle be sighted in 1-2 inch high at 100yards?Is the 160gr.& 175gr.really to big for this round?Thanks in advance

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Probably the 154 grain loads.....even the 162 grain loads too.

I'd consider the 140 grainers a trifle light for the 300# critters but It'll do it.

Federal premium only offers noslerbullets in the 140gr.7x57
I figure there was something to that.Hornady offers the 139.gr. and cactus jack said the 130gr.bullet was his favoritein 270.I think the 7mmstw came in 140gr.i just never put it all together?I think speer offers a grandslam bullet at 140gr. in 7mm.If i need a heavy hitter the 7magnum with 175gr.grandslam should do right?What weight biggame should be about right for the 140gr.pills,200-225# ?

I like 160gr in my .280, 150gr in the 7-08 & 7x57. That would take me up to cow elk size game, say 400#+. Nothing wrong w/ 160gr in the 7x57 either, especially if your rifle likes them.
Speer makes a 145gr GS, decent bullet, but I like 150gr NP better. You are so right about the 7mag, it's made for 160gr-175gr bullets going fast.

The 140gr bullets will be fine for game to 300lbs.If you use premium bullets they will also work well for elk and moose.

i use hornady 154gr ROUND NOSES with 49.0gr h4350 & site 1" high at 100 yds. All i know is stay away from 140 balostic tips, they crater on hogs

For my 7x57 I'm a fan of the heavier bullets. My all around load is with 154 gr. Hornady Interlock's but I use the factory S&B 173 gr. SPCE a lot for hunting. Personally I would only use the 154 gr. and up but I'm sure a 140 gr. premium would do the trick also. My phot at left shows the Texas Dall I took in August with the S&B load.

I prefer either the 150gr Nosler Partition or the 154gr Norma factory loading. My Husqvarnas won't shoot anything heavier than that - the barrel twist won't stabilize heavier bullets.

I just shoot 160's on everything and sight in 2 in. high at 100 yards. I have shot the 140-grain bullets on deer, but the 160 gr is more versatile if you plan on using it on anything larger.

I support the guys who recommend the 154 grain Hornady's. Especially the Round Nose.

I also really like the 160 grain Bullets, particular the speer Mag tip, in 160 and 175 grains.

Hornady's 175 grains, SP or Round Nose will go thru about anything you want it to.
A cheap bullet but a read sleeper on performance is the Remington 175 grain corelokt.

If the rifle is long throated, take advantage of that. My favorite load in long throated 7 Mausers is 40 grains Of IMR 3031. With any of the above bullets, your MV is going to be 2600 to 2650 will all bullet weights. Accuracy is fantastic.

I have had the 175 Rem corelokts penetrate thru 18 inches of wood with a MV of only 2000 fps!

3.5 inches high at 100 yds, and that is still a 200 yd load at 2000 fps.

No wrong answer here with any of those bullet weights.

Cheers
seafire

Should I use the old advice,When in doubt,use the heaviest bullet for caliber?There is a big differance in deer,hog,& bear.A heavy bullet will kill a deer but a lite one might not do to good on a heavy bruiser?I guess the 160gr.would be a good compromise?Seems the 154gr.would do just as well,its only 6 gr. lighter?I will try them all!!I just know some of the hogs go 400#,The bear 500# and the bucks 200#plus....

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Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
Should I use the old advice,When in doubt,use the heaviest bullet for caliber?There is a big differance in deer,hog,& bear.A heavy bullet will kill a deer but a lite one might not do to good on a heavy bruiser?I guess the 160gr.would be a good compromise?Seems the 154gr.would do just as well,its only 6 gr. lighter?I will try them all!!I just know some of the hogs go 400#,The bear 500# and the bucks 200#plus....

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The "old advice" will work as the 7-57 does not exceed the velocity for the old bullet designs. We face choices like this when one game animal is heavier and tougher than the other.

Today one can use premium bullets and drop the weight some. This should give better results on the lighter game and still penetrate the heavier ones.

I might choose a 140 premium if the bear were not frequently encountered.

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Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
Whats the best all round bullet for the 7x57 to be used for game 300# and under?Range 200yards and under.Will the 140gr. be about equal with the 270 with 130gr.as far as performance on game?Should rifle be sighted in 1-2 inch high at 100yards?Is the 160gr.& 175gr.really to big for this round?Thanks in advance

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The best all-round bullet in the 7X57mm for game under 300# is the Nosler Partition in 140-grain weight. Yes, loaded to allowable levels in a modern, strong-action rifle, like a Ruger No.1A or M77, it performs very much like a .270 Win. with either 130 or 150-grain Nosler Partition bullets. It will not shoot quite as flat as the 130 in a .270, but out to 300 yards or so, neither you nor any game you shoot will know the difference. Nor will the tissue damage and wound channels be measurably different!

I have shot every bullet listed here with the exception of the Nosler 140. My favorites are the 160 grain Sierra BTSP, the 175 grain Hornady interlok spire point and the Speer Mag tip in the same weight. I push em to 2550 fps or so with AA 4350 and get fine accuracy. All of these bullets open fast on deer at this velocity and shoot plenty flat up to 250 yards though most of my shooting is at less than 100 yards. As soon as I run out of these I am going to open the box of 154 Hornady RN and see what they do, they sure have good press on this forum.

Has anyone tried the Barnes 140 grain TSX in the 7x57 and if so what results did you get? I am thinking of these for my new 7x57 project.

Thanks,

RCG

I don't have any experience with the 7x57, but I do with the .280 Rem. So my vote would go to the 140 Nosler Partition, or the 139gr Hornady Interlock. Next choice would be the 150gr NP, or the 154gr Interlock.

Which ever your rifle likes the best!

I was wandering the same question a couple years ago. I saw a lot of people go w/ 140's or 160's, so chose the middle...that being the 150 nosler partition. The powder that worked best for me was W760. Good luck.

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Originally posted by RCG:
Has anyone tried the Barnes 140 grain TSX in the 7x57 and if so what results did you get? I am thinking of these for my new 7x57 project.

Thanks,

RCG

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I used the 120 gr TSX on 2 deer this year out of my M-77 7x57 @ around 3000 fps.
Bot at 125 yards broadside into the lungs.
Instant death,and no meat lost.

7Mauser:

Thanks. I think I will give the TSX a try.

RCG

I have used the 160 gr. Noslers and 175 gr. Noslers on most African plainsgame, elk and deer and one moose if my memory is correct..I have never felt the need for anything else..

I also found the 130 gr. speer to be an outstanding deer and antelope bullet in the 7x57 and it seems to shoot well in the 1x9 and 1x9.5 twists for some reason. I have used the 140 Nosler and its a good bullet for deer and probably elk unless you take going away shots which I will, so I use the 175 Nosler.

RCG,

I load the 140 grain TSX in my 7x57. I use H414 and every load I tried gave sub MOA accuracy with velocities ranging from 2,700 fps to 2,950 fps.

I shot a smaller sized California Hog (it looked like ALF from the TV show) with the 2,950 fps load. The hog was running from my right to my left and about 40 yards out. I just swung my rifle like I was shooting quail and put the 140 grn TSX through the shoulder. It knocked him off his feet and he was dead when he it the ground. No tracking necessary. I have a LOT of guns & calibers to chose from and the 7x57 with 140 grain TSX's is now my "go to" rifle for California hunting.

Tim

Here is a photo of ALF

I have used nothing but the 150 grain Scirocco in my 7x57. It is one of the new "wonder" bullets that begat the Accubond and Interbond. I think it is the perfect blend of velocity and bullet weight for the 7x57. The Scirocco also has a great B.C. that helps at longer ranges, considering the velocities available from the 7x57. I do think the Partitions are great bullets, though, and use them in other rifles I have.

Fast Ed

Fast Ed, I'm just starting to work up loads on a Custom pre-64 7x57 with the 150 Scirocco. What loads heve you found to be good ones?

For 200 yards and under I'd load the 175 grain partition. At under 200 yards high velocity isn't real important. But lots of bullet might help a whole bunch.

Thanks everyone for all the help.This post has been sooo much fun!I have a new problem now!I got my 7x57 finally.Its a 20 year old Ruger tang safety model 77 with the red butt pad.Problem is it has never been fired!Should i go ahead and make it into a shooter or just put it up and find one that is not new in the box- mint?They dont make the Tang safetys anymore,especially in 7x57!What a problem!!!
You hunters and shooters help me make up my mind to shoot or not,I can always find one broke in or just by the new swing safetytype,but you just cant go out and get one with the tang anymore new in the box!Thanks again!!You guys are gentlemen and scholars!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RCG:
Has anyone tried the Barnes 140 grain TSX in the 7x57 and if so what results did you get? I am thinking of these for my new 7x57 project.

I'm getting 2900+ with Varget and a 140 TSX from a 22" barrel in my new 7/08 (kissin' cuz' of your 7x57).
Accurate, great penetration. Only one deer so far. Nice Nothern MN buck. Instant kill.

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Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
Thanks everyone for all the help.This post has been sooo much fun!I have a new problem now!I got my 7x57 finally.Its a 20 year old Ruger tang safety model 77 with the red butt pad.Problem is it has never been fired!Should i go ahead and make it into a shooter or just put it up and find one that is not new in the box- mint?They dont make the Tang safetys anymore,especially in 7x57!What a problem!!!
You hunters and shooters help me make up my mind to shoot or not,I can always find one broke in or just by the new swing safetytype,but you just cant go out and get one with the tang anymore new in the box!Thanks again!!You guys are gentlemen and scholars!

You have to shoot it!!!
Are you a shooter or collector?
What a waste to let that wonderful old Ruger hang in limbo.
Shoot,and enjoy it
Mike

Hey 7mauser,Yes I agree,I broke down and couldnt stand it nomore.I got a box of 140gr.rem.cor-loks,all dealer had,and put a old cheap bushnell with the rangefinder reticle,i had traded for awhile back but never got to try out,and sighted her in.Man that 7x57 is the biggest secret going!One word-SWEEEEET!!!
That baby broughta new meaning to sergical presion.I gotta get a leupold scope and put on her now.Iam going to get some dies and 150gr.rn hornadys and give them a whirl next.Iam very satisfied with the accuracy!VIVA 7MM MAUSER!!!

blackbearhunter
I used 140 Rem corelokts in my Dakota - same reason they were all they had. Guess what - they work fine on Deer - three Deer - 3 shots. Hit where I aimed too. Almost makes me want to stick with factorys.

TerryR

BTW,
You can still get a Ruger in tang saftey.
It's called the 1A light sporter.
I have a 7x57 in one of those as well.
Glad you enjoyed your 7mauser.
I sure do love mine
Mike

Thanks iam alife member of the 7x57 club now!Yippeee!!!Iam hooked!

Blackbearhunter: It is a great little club indeed. I once owned a Model 77 tang safety in 7x57mm, got it stolen, bought a 7x57mm in the Mark II, then got a hankering for a CZ 550, sold the Ruger and bought the CZ 550 American in 7x57mm. I shoot 162 graqin Hornady SSTs and 160 grain Nosler Partitions in mine. With H414 the velocity is right around 2,765 fps and the accuracy is simply great. I used to run it at 2,815 fps but some fellows on one of the boards said I was seriously close to blowing myself and rifle up even though there were no signs of pressure, I was getting 7 to 8 reloads per case. My CZ (and the Rugers did too) has a very very long throat. My rifle likes the bullets close to the lands (.01 inch) and as such, the 162 grain Hornady SST in a loaded round has an overall cartridge length of 3.327 inches. Regardless of how crazy a loaded round looks, I can really get sub half-minute of angle, three-shot groups from sandbag rests, at 100 yards. I have used the 7x57mm for everything from a wild turkey in Texas, to javelina in Texas, wild boar in Texas, whitetail deer in Texas, antelope in Wyoming, mule deer, bear and elk here in New Mexico, all with the 160 grain range bullets. My barrel has a 1x8.66 twist, so it is best shot with the heavier bullets. My brother liked my rifle so much he bought a CZ 550 Full Stock in 7x57mm and when a friend of his saw the full stock rifle, he had to have one too and bought one. CZ has since stopped producing its line of rifles in 7x57mm, which I feel is the company's loss. Anyway, congrads on a great rifle and a great cartridge. Tom Purdom

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Originally posted by 7x57mm: I used to run it at 2,815 fps but some fellows on one of the boards said I was seriously close to blowing myself and rifle up even though there were no signs of pressure, I was getting 7 to 8 reloads per case. Tom Purdom

"It seems very difficult to impress most reloaders with the fact that every rifle is an individual, and what proves to be a maximum load in one may be quite mild in another, and vice versa." Bob Hagel, GAME LOADS AND PRACTICAL BALLISTICS FOR THE AMERICAN HUNTER, 1977

Tom, I get one hell of a kick out of people who tell you that you are about to blow YOURSELF UP WITH YOUR RIFLE USING YOUR LOADS when they have absolutely NO IDEAof how YOUR LOAD is performing IN YOUR RIFLE ....

Brother, isn't it the truth, however, I think they mean well. Tom Purdom

Thers's another with a tang safety, it's the Ruger No 1 RSI, the prettiest rifle to come out of the Ruger factory IMHO. My 7x57 RSI shoots Sierra 140 grain spitzers on top of 45 grains of ADI 2208 into 3/4' (I think ADI 2208 is Varget in the US, but check it out, don't take my word for it, if you are thinking of using this load). That's plenty good enough for me.
Long live the 7x57 there are few, if any, better cartridges for deer stalking. Least that's what I think, but I have been wrong before.

I haven't used it on game, but I get good results in terms of accuracy and velocity in my Ruger 77 7x57 from the 145 grain Speer boattail bullet and about 50 grains of H 414. I see no reason why this bullet should not work well on any game animal in North America smaller than a large elk. And, although it would not be my first chioce, if that's all I had I wouldn't hesitate to use it on elk or moose too, provided the distance were not more than about 200 yards.