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I'm slimming down my gun safe and have gotten to a point where the decisions are getting difficult. Initially, getting rid of my Vangaurd sub moa 300 weatherby was an easy decision. I don't need submoa rounds going mock thirteen to kill deer, or even elk and pigs. That said, I just started reloading and have come to realize that one can load 220 and 250 grained boolitz into the 300 weatherby. I really like heavy for cal rounds and I can load the weatherby down to 300 H&H or even 30-06 velocities. I suspect that with these 220 plus grained bullets, it might make a decent plains game gun. I don't know if there's room for it with my 9.3, 35 whelen, and soon to be 6.5x55, but it might be fun to play with. So, should it stay or should it go? I'm close to flipping a coin, and damn I hate selling my toys. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | ||
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I suggest selling it. A rifle like that deserves a home where it can be properly appreciated. | |||
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point taken, but I'm really trying to give it a chance. I used to just use it as a prairie dog and coyote sniper rifle, but as I mentioned earlier, I think it could be pretty handy loaded with 220 and/or 250 grained pills. I think the cal so loaded could be a real killer on bigger pg, grizzly etc. I already know that loaded with 180 grained bullets its a great antelope/sheep gun. I shot my one and only audad with it. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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In my opinion the WHELEN would go before the WEATHERBY. | |||
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It does... I'm just looking for an excuse to keep it. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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Tough call. If it lives up to it's sub-MOA claim then I'd have a real hard time getting rid of it. .300 Weatherby is a pretty fierce round for, well, lots of game, out to pretty ridiculous ranges. ________ "...And on the 8th day, God created beer so those crazy Canadians wouldn't take over the world..." | |||
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I would keep the 300 Wby over the 6.5 Swede. With a 35 whelen and a 9.3x 74 you have a pretty good coverage. The 300 mags are really good in Africa for plains animals, much better than the other calibers. My wife has a sub moa stainless in 338 Win Mag, and after the addition of a timney trigger, it is her favorite rifle now. | |||
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It is a tack driver and may be the most accurate rifle I have excluding my cz 9.3. I shot a small doe with it a couple of years ago in order to cut down on the pop. I hit it with 180 grains of weatherby ray gun that put a watermelon size hole in the shoulder of the doe. Next time I'll use a 220 grained bullet. I'll save the 180's for the gofers. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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. Its funny that now 20 years or so after the Super bullet revolution still talk about loading 220 and 250 grain bullets in the 300 mag. It is the wrong direction to go .. The 300 is a great round for something .. I,m not sure what ?? I,ve seen a bunch of moose and caribou killed with it but I was never impressed ... I would say KEEP IT . Why sell a good rifle ... Someday you may want a Sendero or Beanfield rifle .. and , hey thats right ,you may remember , you already have one ... And it might already have a scope on it and even already be sighted in and you have some ammo for it ..... It,s better than getting a NEW rifle ... it,s like hanging around with an old friend .......... With 250 gr bullets loaded down , they may well go thru the paper sideways . Not good ... Stick with 180 -200 gr super premium bullets ......for serious big game hunting and if you need to go down to 165s for long shots at lighter animals ............................ Selling good rifles is just , not good ... I only regret selling about 90 good rifles and handguns .....Thats like 80% regret rate ......... .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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If a rifle shoots that good I would have a hard time getting rid of it. An accurate 300 Mag is a hard rifle to beat for all NA game, and with proper bullets would do for African plains game as well. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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It's a classic round in a rifle that shoots very well for you. That means it's a keeper. The factory twist will handle the 220 grain bullets but I don't know if it can handle the really heavy ones. Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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Thanks fellas. I think I'll keep it, and if you al see it in the classifieds shortly, it means I've changed my mind. I suspect that 220 grained bullets have plenty of s.d. for any soft skinned game. I imagine the same could be said of the 200 grained pills "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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Since you have a 9.3 I'd let the Whelen go before selling the 300 Wby. I'd use a premium 180-200 gr spitzer and call it good; they'll range better and hold onto more weight than most cup and core 220s (which can be on the soft side even at 30'06 velocities). | |||
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I'm keeping the whelen as it was a project gun that got rebarrled etc., and I'd lose too much reselling it. That said, I'm also keeping the weatherby. I'll be selling my remington guide gun 350 remy... which hurts bc it's killed well for me in the past. I'm also losing another favorite my 358 win mag BLR. That along with a 338 win mag. The 300 provides something I do not have, and that is a long range rifle with minute of angle accuracy. I'll just use my 6.5x55 on dear I shoot at close range. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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Well I for one am very glad you are getting rid of a rifle that shoots a round that has never been invented ...... Thanks .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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I have 2 300's one a Savge the other one ultra Mag. I never get rid of either of them. Love those 300 rifles. | |||
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I, for one, am confused, maybe I shouldn't have assumed you could figure out on your own that a 350 remy was a 350 remington magnum (I also own a 35 remington). I'd be happy to send pics if necessary. Or was there confusion about a 358 win mag or 338 win mag? "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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gunboot- You were indeed correct. I got carried away with my typing and did not realize that I incorrectly added "mag" to 358 win. Perhaps there should be a 358 win mag, but I suppose the 358 norma has that covered. My sincerest apologies. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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I agree that there SHOULD be a 358 Win Mag ,, Say a 300 Win mag case necked up .. Or the WSM case necked up .... .... No worries ...... Just thot I,de mention it .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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I agree, or maybe a 338 win mag necked up to 358... but I'm sure that's been done. I take comfort in the knowledge that folks on these forums will always oblige to correct you when you are wrong. Keep on keeping me on my toes Gumboot. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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Keep the .300 Weatherby and forget the 6.5x55. | |||
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I've done even better than that, and I've decided to go with both. Slimmed myself down to a 35 whelen, 300 weatherby, 404 Jeff, 9.3x62, and soon to be 6.5x55 (assuming someone is kind enough to buy my 350 remy mag). "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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Good show | |||
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If your barrel has the twist, a 300wby mag and 200 or 220gr NP's would make a hell of a usefull all rounder for elk, grizzly, sheep and goats and any African PG. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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I took my 300 Ultra Mag to Africa shooting 200 nosler bullets, That what I killed my game with. | |||
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Maddenwh, I know things are tough in Austin now, but there is no need to trim your battery just to have fewer. I have an FN 300 Whby Southgate,, FN 257 Whby Southgate, 300 Apex, 257 Bob, 8X57JRS, 9.3X62, 9.3x74R, 30-06, 2-375 H&H, 400 Jeffery, 404 Jeffery with another on the way (maybe). None of these are going anywhere. Might I suggest a larger Liberty safe? Sorry just fun'n! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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For someone thats slimming down there guns I would have a hard time letting a .300 mag go. What I like about a .300 mag weather it be weatherby or Win mag or any other .300 mag is that they really are universale and seem to work well on a wide range of game. The smallest game I've taken with a .300 has been a fox. No excess dammage I shot it with a 180 gr. Sierra match king that is loaded with the same load as the 180 gr. game kings and have the same p.o.i. The biggest I've taken has been a moose. Also Brown bear, black bear, deer, pronghorn, roebuck. If I were somehow told that I could only hunt with one rifle it would be a .300 mag. Remember back in the early days of men who traveled the world collecting big game. Guys like Elgen Gates, Roy Weatherby,C.J. McEelroy. They all did 90% of all there hunting with one rifle and it was a .300 Weatherby. Actully I diegress a little because the smallest game I've taken with a .300 has been some prairie dogs and a rattle snake I took after a pronghorn hunt. but the fox was the smallest I salvaged. Good thing to cause the .300 did'nt leave much of the prairie dogs. DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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After reviewing my posting (of course after posting it) I realized that the softpoints I load are 180 gr ballistic tips and not game kings. Anyway this is a practise I use on a few of my rifles. I will work up whatever load I will use for big game and then duplicate the same load with an FMJ or match bullet because so often when I'm hunting there are opertunetie's for fur bearers and smaller game. DRSS NRA life AK Master Guide 124 | |||
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Things aren't that tough, it's just that I got Leukemia and had to pay for medical bills. Damn if that isn't the biggest buzz kill post ever, but true. I had to sell all of those doubles I have listed as well (can't figure out how to change them on my profile. I traded in the 9.3x74 for a 9.3x62, the 450/400 for the 404 Jeff, and the 470 for a 458 Lott (soon to be anyways. "Sometimes nothing can be a pretty cool hand." 470 Heym; 9.3x74r Chapuis, Heym 450/400 on it's way | |||
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Bummer is right! I wish you all the best! YOu will enjoy the 404 Jeffery. I most certainly do! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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