Hello all I am looking for some info on loads for the 358Win. I have been reloading for over 15 years but new to this cartridge. The loads will be based on elk hunting so I think the 200's are a bit too light.

225 Nosler Partition / 48 gr. IMR 4320. Only load you'll ever need... ....don't thank me, thank Saeed...I got it right here at AR, and it works as advertised!

what's the gun you are loading for?
tube or clip?
woofer

Did not mention that did I. The rifle is a Browning BLR, I am very happy with this rifle so far. I have read as much as I could find..until I found this forum. I have found alot of good information as well as some foolishness here. I am presently working up loads with the speer 220fp
the speer 250 sp and a sierra 225 spbt. I have had good accuracy with the sierra's in other calibers but have always had core seperation on all recovered bullets. The speer's are all new to me. I will be using this rifle load combination for under 200 yard thick stuff hunting of Elk. I normally shoot a 300wm with 180-200's when I am leaning towards long range work.

kag358, I think your rifle will do fine. I also think that if a 200 grain bullet is fine in the 300, it will also work in the 358 with it's larger frontal diameter. Just make sure it is a reasonable distance for the 358. I load my 200s with the same 48 grains of IMR4230 listed above with good accuracy as well.

The 225 Partition would be my first choice, though.

Kag358

You got the right load and bullet.

Have fun hunting with your .358 this fall.

WN

i have the same blr. i dont use it anymore after getting my 350 mag but i have found the same bullets shoot well in both. if you dont mind shooting inexpensive bullets that are very accurate and work well for elk and deer then try the hornady sp's in 200 and 250. if you want the to feel all warm and fuzzy, try a nosler part in 225
woofer

I like the 220 hot core, I also like .35 cal Hornadys. Their 200 grn spitzers will penetrate a bit better than other 200 grainers in their class because they make a tighter mushroom due to the fluted spire point jackets. likewise as 250's go, their RN is a good fit with 358 win velocities.

Thanks to all. I guess I should be looking in the direction of the Nosler and Hornady area to find what I am looking for. I have shot many Hornady bullets in various calibers and have never been disappointed. My exposure to the Noslers have been limited.

I've never shot an elk with my .358 BLR but I know a lot of guys who have and they use the .225 nosler or the .250 speer 53 grains of 748 will send it 2370 fps(I've shot over 20 bears with this bullet and only recovered 2) A fellow I know in Calif. uses 54 grains of 748 over the .225 nosler for 2460 he took his to africa and killed all sorts of plains game big and small. The best powder I ever found for the .358 was AA2015br high vel and very accurate but they don't make it anymore.(if anyone has some laying around I would be happy to buy it) This last Spring I shot a very nice bear with the Hornady .250 spire point and recovered the bullet in the off leg, perfect mushroom. Forget the .220 speer flat points, they aren't worth the trouble. By the way my elk hunting friends say there is nothing wrong with the .225 sierras and have had excellent success. Now a question for me ! What vel are you guys getting with the imr 4320 and with what bullets ? measured over a cronograph not guessed. Thanks

Carl,

My BLR would go 2400 fps with 49grs of 4320 and the 225 gr Sierra. This was a max load for the rifle. I have not yet worked with 4320 in my pre-64 M70 Featherweight though it will be the powder I use. It was exceedingly accurate in the BLR (no longer own). Not sure if you remember me but I sent you some lapping bullets for a 358 rebore of yours 4 or 5 years ago. That gun shooting alright?

Yes Ed I do remember. The rifle shot fine more than fine really but no one would believe it. I shot a number of bears with the rifle then made the mistake of loaning it to a friend, he killed a moose, elk and big bear with it. Now I can't get it back !( he did send some money) it was an 88 win. rebored to .358. Probably the best hunting rifle I ever owned. Do you still have your bolt rifle in .358 ? Would you consider parting with it ? Your a good guy and I really appreciated the help with the lapping, hope I can repay you some how.

In my BLR, I was able to get 1 MOA groups with the Speer 250-grain spitzer at a muzzle velocity of over 2400 FPS using a WW 748 load I got from Bob Hagel. This load was published in a Handloader Magazine ages ago! The Speer spitzers are plenty tough enough for the biggest game, if launched at less than 2500 FPS. Noslers are great bullets, but premiums aren't needed at .358 Win. velocities!! Save them for the .358 STA!!

225 sierra gamekings
start at 47gr win748....

sub moa in 3 of 4 different 358s, including a blr. my 99-358 is nearer 1/5"
jeffe

Jeffe,

That's one accurate Savage!

.358 I have a question for you . In one of your above posts you said to forget about the 220 gr.Speer bullet for the 358 . Can you tell me what it is about this bullet that makes it unsuitable for the 358?
Thanks,
Goat

Goat, I don't think the 220 SSpeer would be unsuitable, exactly, but why use a flatnoes bullet when you can use a pointed one?

Well I have just returned from the range. Shot a few different loads I had worked up. One was 48 Grains 748 with the Sierra 225. This one shot the best so far and no pressure signs. But I must say the Speer 250's shot very poorly out of this gun. I tried it with 748 as well as BLC(2). What is it about the IMR4320 you all speak about so much. Will it really shrink the groups with this bullet? I realize a lever gun will never shoot like a Bolt but the groups were over 3". The Sierra's were in the 1-1/2" range I can live with that.

I've never had a .358 win that wouldn't shoot, so don't give up. Might try some AA2520. My little blr is a one hole grouper( 3 shots) with about anything I put in it. I can't get the vel out of the .220's as I can the .225's but I usually end up loaded with .250's when hunting bear. Go to sixgunner.com and read Paco Kellys remarks about the .358 also take a look at the Barnes manual you may be suprised what Paco says > I e-mailed him once and darnded if he didn't reply with good info. Also call Rich at Sierra,(toll free) he is a big .358 fan and will give you a lot of useful info. that isn't in their book. By the way if you look in their new manual there is a picture of me with the .358 load data. Also might call the call at Karifu rifles he knows his stuff about .258 win. Good luck

oppps.. meant 1.5" on the savage....

but, still, minute o'elk
jeffe

I agree with Jeffesso 225gr sierra's over some 748 IT'S like and iron, it flattens whatever you hit with it.

I have had great success with 225 grain Sierras over IMR 4320.