I was in the local gun store a few days ago and they have a older used .270 win. im only 16 do you guys think this would be a good starter gun?

Johnny you could not pick a better one.
The only thing I would suggest is the quality of the rifle itself is more important than the caliber.
What make is it, what condition is the bore in?
Are there any cracks that you can see anywhere in the stock?

But as far as the caliber goes that was my very first big game rifle when I graduated up from a 30-30.
In a lot of ways it should probably have been my last rifle as well..

Johnnie,

I'm 62 ... have had a number of rifles over the years. I just picked up an old J. C. Higgins Model 50. Got it for the action which is an FN commercial Mauser.

Happened to be a .270. Is the first .270 I've ever owned. Barrel is in good shape so I decided to shoot it before I turned it into something else. Is very comfortable to shoot and quite accurate ... I think this fellas a keeper and the .270 Winchester is certainly a fine chambering.

Go for it Young Man ... you'll just be 45+ years ahead of me (a good thing in this situation! )

I think you'll like it a lot!

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Originally posted by Johnny Zanni:
I was in the local gun store a few days ago and they have a older used .270 win. im only 16 do you guys think this would be a good starter gun?

Yes. But consider the make, age, condition, etc. and how it is priced with those things in mind. As far as a 270 being a good starter caliber, my answer is absolutely.

The 270 was also my first big game rifle. I still have 2 in the safe. Good luck.

Without a .270 you are nekkid! Get it, you won't regret it. From groundhogs to Black Bear it is an outstanding round.

About as good as it gets! but you didn't say what make or model it was???????

I have owned and/or fired more than my fair share of rifles, handguns, and crew served weapons from the little ones to big ones, but.... I never owned or fired a .270 until last year. It quickly became my most favorite of all far above anything else!

The guy just told me it was a "Alpine" .270 any info on the make or anything would be very much appreciated
the rifle looks good no cracks or anything and the bore looks good
$449.99 Rifle + 3-9 scope + bases, rings..ect

Johnni I hate to keep after you but can you find out the make of the scope, that could have as much bearing on things as the rifle itself.

Jhonny, I paid that much lastyear for a Winchester M70 push feed with a syntghetic stock that looks like what was used on the Featherweight in wood. Damned thinks it's a bench rest rifle. Well close to it anyway. Worst group I've gotten at 100 yards so far was .75" with most in the .50" range. It likes the 150 gr. bullets better than the 130s. Go figure. I also have two FN Mausers in .270 that are equally accurate, and even my Ruger #1A will stay withing 1 .25" or better.
I'm not the greatest fan of the .270, but I've found that cartridge in the rifles I own is one of the most accurate I've ever used. I've only taken a couple of deer with mine over the years but it worked just fine. I know I'll get some flack from some of the people here, but my preference in the .270 is for the 150 gr. bullet. It's not so detructive of good eating meat, should I misplace a shot and hit a shoulder.
Paul B.

Hey, John,

I know very little about the Alpine, but if you check out EllwoodEpps.com in Orillia, they have a used section with some good deals.
As for calibre, you'd be in great shape.

I hear there's some great deer hunting your way!

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Originally posted by Johnny Zanni:
The guy just told me it was a "Alpine" .270 any info on the make or anything would be very much appreciated
the rifle looks good no cracks or anything and the bore looks good
$449.99 Rifle + 3-9 scope + bases, rings..ect

Paul you sure won't catch any flack from me about the 150's I think they are the ideal weight in a 270 personally.
They do anything that the 130 will do only better and turn a 270 into a real rifle.

Deer hunting here is getting to be awsome the deer herd is huge. for my hunting needs (Bear, Deer, Moose) i was thinking the 130gr for deer and the same for bears then the 150gr for moose any good loads or recomendations on factory ammo

Johnny,

I started deer hunting when I was 15 years old with my great grandfather's .270 Win. You can't go wrong with a .270.

Can you get us a brand on the rifle or scope? Or, could you take a picture with your cell phone maybe? I'm not familiar with Alpine brand and would love to see it.

Good luck!

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Originally posted by bucko:
Paul you sure won't catch any flack from me about the 150's I think they are the ideal weight in a 270 personally.
They do anything that the 130 will do only better and turn a 270 into a real rifle.

I used to believe that until the 110 TSX came out. The 270 is quite a "real rifle" with the 130. It just happens to be superb with a 150.

I love the 270. Great choice. I have taken many whitetails, several muledeer, 2 pronghorns, 2 caribou and a moose with it. All with the 130 grain bullet.

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Originally posted by Johnny Zanni:
I was in the local gun store a few days ago and they have a older used .270 win. im only 16 do you guys think this would be a good starter gun?

My first centerfire was a .270 and I bought it when I was 15.....I couldn't have bought a worse gun if I tried.

I wanted to shoot varmints all year long and deer once a year.....the deer rifle won out and it was a miserable varmint rifle with far more recoil than a 15 year old kid was used to.

I soon developed sich a severe flinch that I couldn't shoot a .22 rimfire without flinching.

The noise as much as the recoil was the problem and I had to work on the problem to recover from the flinching......and it wasn't an easy one to solve.

For my purposes the .222 would have been a far better starter gun......having much lower noise and recoil and a far better accuracy record than the pump .270 I bought.

Others warned me about the .270 but I just had to have the (ego boosting) power.....what an awesome mistake!

It's a good calibre, as good as in real world performance, as any of the so-called "magnum" rounds of similar calibre.

One advantage is that you can also buy the Remington "light load" 115 grain factory cartridge for it which makes it as good as any 257 Roberts or 243 Winchester for a "light recoiling" rifle.

I load mine with the 140 grain bullet, but am also thinking of the 150 garain option. I don't like the 130 grain bullet AS LOADED IN FACTORY CARTRIDGES as there is too much muzzle blast!

So that may be a factor to consider if this rifle you have seen has a "short" barrel. On that matter I can't see any good reason for any 270 with a barrel less than 22" as a minimum. 24" barrel length is better!

If it has a 20" barrel I would pass on it. With factory 130 grain bullets the muzzle blast will be unpleasant and over long term harmful to your hearing.

My advice? Try some of the Remington Reduced Load 115 grain cartridges in it if recoil might be a problem. Or a 140 grain factory load. I reload mine to give just 2800 fps out of a 24" barrel with 140 grain Hornady SPBT...it works for me. Don't buy it if it has a less than 22" barrel.

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Deer hunting here is getting to be awsome the deer herd is huge. for my hunting needs (Bear, Deer, Moose) i was thinking the 130gr for deer and the same for bears then the 150gr for moose any good loads or recomendations on factory ammo

Since you want the 150 for moose I'd find the most accurate factory ammuntion in 150 grain and shoot it at everything. It is never a bad idea to use heavy bullets on lighter game animals.

Midway
CTD

Hey finaly got back to the store and the rifle is just a Alpine i could not find a model on it i think i found the seriel number if that would help the barrel is 22 1/4 inches and the scope is a Redfield 4X

anyway i can make the picture a little smaller.

Johnnie,

You'll have to use some sort of picture editor to scale the pic to a more reasonable size. Often 640 pixels wide and 480 pixels tall is a good maximum size for posting on the internet.

i dont know how to do it sorry for the size

It appears to be an FN action and for sure a Mauser variant.

It'll make a fine .270.

so its probly a alpine barrel on a mauser stock and FN action?

Looks like a Parker-Hale (Santa Barbara) or Mark X action. Good Mauser for .270. If it shoots well, you could carry it a lifetime with pride.

If you don't know how to resize jpegs, it's time to learn. If you're running a PC go to:

http://www.versiontracker.com/windows/

and search for image processing or jpeg and download a free application that supports resizing or scaling.

If you're running a Mac with OSX, PREVIEW (which is part of the OS) supports resizing.

Alpine was a trade name used by someone years ago....someone like Parker Hale or someone else....

It's my guess that you have a Mauser.....just call it that and get on with it! It's a fine gun!

Buy it! Looks a lot like my Parker Hale 1200 and that is my favorite rifle that I own in .270. I'd get rid of those see thru rings, for a scope mount. Just get some Weaver bases and rings if you want to do it cheap. The old Redfield scope seems to be in good condition as well.

But that scope isn't a 3-9 but a fixed 4 powers which is fine. I'd offer a lower amount unless he will throw in new rings and bases and mount the scope lower to the action. Just don't settle for Weaver bases and rings in the deal for $450.