What's the STUPIDIST thing you've ever heard?

13 February 2011, 22:13

surestrike

quote:
Originally posted by sammyh312:
My favorite was from the deranged, whacked-out crackhead that shot at me one night from twenty yards with a snub .38. Bullet hit a garage wall a foot over my head, and he later told the judge, "your honor, i wasnt shootn' to kill Sgt. Harris, i was in vietnam, if id wanted to hit him i woulda."

Shoot Sammy, sounds like a perfect candidate for a DSAF shooting!

(Did Society A Favor)

14 February 2011, 02:30

wasbeeman

quote:
Originally posted by atomiclab:
the stupidest thing i ever hear..........constantly hear........

"the .223 is so deadly/destructive because the bullets tumble in the air/ OR tumble on impact"

people that say that clearly don't understand bullistics and terminal bullistics.

kills me everytiime I hear it!

That dates back to when the US was determined to make a man killer out of a varmint round. They upped the bullet weight without adjusting the twist so the bullets were in fact unstable. But the shitheads tried to pass that off as intended for greater letality. And seeing how little that average citizens know about ballistics, they were believed.

14 February 2011, 16:17

atomiclab

another stupidest thing I ever heard
(sectional density is meaningless. it has no meaning with modern bullet technology)

16 February 2011, 23:55

the_captain

I used to work at a gun shop in town and we had another older guy behind the counter there as well. Well-meaning but uninformed. He owned a laser bore sighter and offered to help customers get their rifles bore sighted all the time because "if you use the laser to sight it in it will be right on target all the way to 1000 yards". Evidently this was true for all rifle/caliber setups too, because I heard it every day.

The guy wouldn't listen when I explained that he was wrong so I always tried to pull the customers away and tell them the truth... It's too bad that people new to the sport are fed such purely wrong information by the people they are buying the gun from and depending on for advice.

17 February 2011, 00:09

Rothke

OK, local dealer. I purchased a Rem. 700 PSS w/ Leupold Mark 4 50mm scope, bench/sniper setup. All told, about $3 K into this rig. New.

Sales guy says, "Let me bore site this gun for you."

Sets it up on the stand, inserts the collimator, and then . . .

TWISTS THE ELEVATION KNOB ENTIRELY OFF THE $1500 SCOPE.

What's even more distressing is that he doesn't realize that when he does this, all the gas fill in the scope bleeds out and it needs to be sent to Leupold for service.

Did I mention that it's a 100 mile round trip drive to this shop?

17 February 2011, 00:43

7MMNut

quote:
Originally posted by the_captain:
I used to work at a gun shop in town and we had another older guy behind the counter there as well. Well-meaning but uninformed. He owned a laser bore sighter and offered to help customers get their rifles bore sighted all the time because "if you use the laser to sight it in it will be right on target all the way to 1000 yards". Evidently this was true for all rifle/caliber setups too, because I heard it every day.

The guy wouldn't listen when I explained that he was wrong so I always tried to pull the customers away and tell them the truth... It's too bad that people new to the sport are fed such purely wrong information by the people they are buying the gun from and depending on for advice.

You just need those new super premium gravity free bullets!

A similar line of thinking from my good friend Hal....

Hal : Did I ever tell you about my buddy that decked a mulie at 700 yards with one shot?

Me : Nope, 700 yards you say? That's quite a shot Hal. Did your friend tell you this, or were you there to see it?

Hal : Oh no, I was there, most incredible shot I've ever seen.

Me : I'll bet. So how far over did he hold?

Hal : What do you mean?

Me : Well at that range he'd have to aim high and thus hold over the deer.

Hal : Oh no he held dead on him.

Me : Ummm, Hal I hate to question you, but he'd be sighted in several feet high at 100 yards to be zero'd at 700.

Hal : No I think he was zero'd at 100. He is shooting a 300 Win Mag and they're really fast.

Me : (Disgusted at myself for even discussing this for this long) I guess he must have used gravity free bullets.

Hal : (Dazed and confused look)

Me : (Also a dazed and confused look that a fellow electrical engineer did not understand that gravity also applies to bullets no matter how fast they leave the barrel.)

17 February 2011, 02:35

jstevens

Many years ago, I ran a gun store in Mo. and purchased a lot of Winchester stuff from Grafs in Mexico who were Win. distributors. Right before the deer season I was over there picking up some stuff and Tom (Bob Grafs son in law) was sighting in a few rifles for customers. I know it's stupid, but it wasn't uncommmon for either of us to sight in 30-40 rifles a year. We sat down at the bench, I was about ready to squeeze off a .270 when an old man carrying a Marlin 336 walked into my field of view about 25 yards in front of my target. Fortunately the rifle was a new Winchester that had about an eight pound trigger pull, so I was able to hold off. When I raised my head, the old man opened fire on my target from about 25 yards offhand, firing as fast as he could lever the .30-30 rounds into the rifle. By the time we got there he was looking at the target which had about 5 holes in it scattered over about 14 in. at 25 yards. He just looked at us and said 'any one of those would have killed a deer' and walked off ready to hunt I guess. We almost died laughing, hopefully we wouldn't be hunting next to him on opening day. Maybe not the stupidist thing I've ever heard, but he was plenty stupid.

13 October 2011, 01:14

carpetman1

Ted Thorn---Was that fellow that killed those 28 elk scoring 350 killed using cast bullets? There is a guy posting there that knows everything known about cast bullets that has probably done it--done everything else.

13 October 2011, 01:21

500N

quote:
Originally posted by sammyh312:
My favorite was from the deranged, whacked-out crackhead that shot at me one night from twenty yards with a snub .38. Bullet hit a garage wall a foot over my head, and he later told the judge, "your honor, i wasnt shootn' to kill Sgt. Harris, i was in vietnam, if id wanted to hit him i woulda."

Sammy

If he shot at you and missed, how the hell did he get to court alive ?

In other words, why didn't you shoot him ?

.

13 October 2011, 02:22

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Fat_Albert:
on a topic here on the AR forum a person asked for loads for a "6mm" and 10 people posted data. When I jumped them for puting out data when they were not even sure what the cartridge he was talking about was I was told by a moderator that "every one here knew that he was talking about a 6mm Remington"

that was me -- and yes, when someone says "308" they don't mean 308 norma now, do they?
6mm rem .. funny, having a hard time coming up with 3 other factory rounds called a 6mm ....

nah.. can't...

but i am still laughing that you are carrying that around

14 October 2011, 01:17

tiggertate

quote:
Originally posted by jstevens:
Many years ago, I ran a gun store in Mo. and purchased a lot of Winchester stuff from Grafs in Mexico who were Win. distributors. Right before the deer season I was over there picking up some stuff and Tom (Bob Grafs son in law) was sighting in a few rifles for customers. I know it's stupid, but it wasn't uncommmon for either of us to sight in 30-40 rifles a year. We sat down at the bench, I was about ready to squeeze off a .270 when an old man carrying a Marlin 336 walked into my field of view about 25 yards in front of my target. Fortunately the rifle was a new Winchester that had about an eight pound trigger pull, so I was able to hold off. When I raised my head, the old man opened fire on my target from about 25 yards offhand, firing as fast as he could lever the .30-30 rounds into the rifle. By the time we got there he was looking at the target which had about 5 holes in it scattered over about 14 in. at 25 yards. He just looked at us and said 'any one of those would have killed a deer' and walked off ready to hunt I guess. We almost died laughing, hopefully we wouldn't be hunting next to him on opening day. Maybe not the stupidist thing I've ever heard, but he was plenty stupid.

Been many decades since there were public ranges in Mexico but my friends describe one they went to that had shooting "lanes" marked with lime. The range was live at all times and you could walk down to change targets anytime you wanted; just don't step outside your lane!

14 October 2011, 03:39

Sid-

I was at Bass Pro Shops earlier this year and wanted to look at a new Winchester M70 made in the Columbia, SC plant to check it's fit and finish. The salesman looked at me funny and asked what I meant by that. I told him I was curious about the quality since FN took over production of Winchester rifles because I wanted a new Safari Express. After a bit more detail about Winchester's misfortunes over the years and change of management/owner's and the closing of the New Haven, CT plant he told me I was crazy. He said Winchester has never been in financial trouble and has never stopped production of any M70's nor are any made in Columbia, SC. He went on to say Fabrique Nationale was not affiliated with Winchester or Browning. He told me he had been a gunsmith for over 30 years so he was right no matter what I had heard. I just had to laugh and walk away.

14 October 2011, 08:25

prof242

Last night, a salesman at Sportsman's Wharehouse was talking to a lady about a handgun and told her that a big caliber would make her flinch (quite possibly), and once a flinch developed, it could NEVER be cured!

16 October 2011, 11:00

Bohica

Dumbest thing I ever heard? OBUMMER preaching without his teleprompter!!
MP

16 October 2011, 23:07

Homebrew

Was in a Dick's Sporting Goods and saw a guy looking at a Marlin .45/70. The clerk at the counter told him "yep, that is pretty much as big as it gets. The .45/70 will kill anything including Mack trucks. I wouldn't shoot it though. It will break your shoulder." Sadly the customer appeared to believe him.

17 October 2011, 00:54

Jim C. <><

quote:
I used to work at a gun shop in town and we had another older guy behind the counter there as well. Well-meaning but uninformed.

The "well meaning" older guy was ignorant because he was a ballistic idiot, and was no doubt ingnorant when he was young. Such willful ignorance is not a common characteristic of the aged, as such. But it is quite common with dumm youth who sometimes live to be old.

17 October 2011, 22:34

Atkinson

Friar, my man, the dumbest thing I have ever heard is that you did not believe your friend..

Come to Idaho and shoot rockchucks in the snake rifle canyon..In certain locations it will lift a 22 or 6 mm bullet as much as a foot and a half at 100 yards in those thermals or updrafts, even on what appears to be a fairly calm day....

It is a common practice here to take a unknowing friend to these canyons and watch him go crazy trying to figure out how come he keeps shooting high on easy shots..It is intertaining.

18 October 2011, 00:21

Dr. Duc

Them's some thermals Ray! I'm not going to disagree with you. I know better than to disagree with you or Alberta Canuck! I'd have to eat it every time I did.

18 October 2011, 00:43

Dr. Duc

quote:
Originally posted by PWS:
(couldn't find it at the autopsy).

"Autopsy is for people and necropsy is for animals."

Post Mortem examination is for either

18 October 2011, 07:36

wwjmbd

quote:
Originally posted by tiggertate:
quote:
Originally posted by jstevens:
Many years ago, I ran a gun store in Mo. and purchased a lot of Winchester stuff from Grafs in Mexico who were Win. distributors. Right before the deer season I was over there picking up some stuff and Tom (Bob Grafs son in law) was sighting in a few rifles for customers. I know it's stupid, but it wasn't uncommmon for either of us to sight in 30-40 rifles a year. We sat down at the bench, I was about ready to squeeze off a .270 when an old man carrying a Marlin 336 walked into my field of view about 25 yards in front of my target. Fortunately the rifle was a new Winchester that had about an eight pound trigger pull, so I was able to hold off. When I raised my head, the old man opened fire on my target from about 25 yards offhand, firing as fast as he could lever the .30-30 rounds into the rifle. By the time we got there he was looking at the target which had about 5 holes in it scattered over about 14 in. at 25 yards. He just looked at us and said 'any one of those would have killed a deer' and walked off ready to hunt I guess. We almost died laughing, hopefully we wouldn't be hunting next to him on opening day. Maybe not the stupidist thing I've ever heard, but he was plenty stupid.

Been many decades since there were public ranges in Mexico but my friends describe one they went to that had shooting "lanes" marked with lime. The range was live at all times and you could walk down to change targets anytime you wanted; just don't step outside your lane!

Wow, that'd be interesting! No more waiting for slow pokes to go and change your target. Must be quite loud 10 yards down range with shooters touching rounds off on both lanes beside yours.

19 October 2011, 18:18

friarmeier

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Friar, my man, the dumbest thing I have ever heard is that you did not believe your friend..

Come to Idaho and shoot rockchucks in the snake rifle canyon..In certain locations it will lift a 22 or 6 mm bullet as much as a foot and a half at 100 yards in those thermals or updrafts, even on what appears to be a fairly calm day....

It is a common practice here to take a unknowing friend to these canyons and watch him go crazy trying to figure out how come he keeps shooting high on easy shots..It is intertaining.

Touche!

I'll take you up on the invite someday

friar