I've got a Rem 700 Mtn LSS in 7mm-08 that is a consistent sub-moa shooter; however, I am keenly interested in getting a 7600 in the same caliber. I've been a pump shotgun shooter all my life and think that a 7600 in 7mm-08 with quick follow-up shot capability would be an ideal whitetail slayer.

With that said, I'm not willing to sacrifice the accuracy I've become accustomed to for that quick follow-up shot capability! I would consider MOA accuracy a requirement for a scoped rifle and I would definitely put a scope on it. I know the 7600 has a freefloated barrel and theoritically should be quite accurate; however, I've seen 7600 accuracy reports ranging from sub-moa to 2"+.

I'd like to hear from those with first hand experences as far as 7600 accuracy is concerned. (Especially 7600 in 7mm-08) I'd also like to hear any other comments you may have related to your actual experiences with the Rem 7600....dependability, balance, fit & finish, trigger, overall shootability, etc, etc.

For any and all pump rifle shooters......why the pump?

Thanks

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I'd like to hear from those with first hand experences as far as 7600 accuracy is concerned.

The last one I shot was a 270 and have never shot a 7-08.

The gun shot like a bolt action....very accurate!!!

Further they are extremely rliable. Pump the crap out of them and the shells fly into the chamber and out...

If I have a criticism it's the trigger.

Not adjustable.....find a smith to stone it and work on it....creep is a problem and it's a tad heavy for me.

I don't think it'll ever be like a Timney in a Bolt action...but i needs to be improved.....although it's not horrible either.

I have fired several of the remington pumps and as you yourself stated accuracy varied.However most were in 270win or 30-06 and none in 7mm-08.As stated by the previous poster,the triggers are a sore spot.None of these rifles are the owners daily hunting rifles anymore as the owners have all switched to bolt actions,and have either sold the pump or have kept it as a spare rifle.

First Shot, you and I have conversed here before as we have the same Mountain Rifle in 7-08.

I have never shot a 7600 in 7-08, but I have shot more than one older Remington 760 rifles chambered in 30-06 and was always amazed at the accuracy.

My boss had a Remington pump in 30-06 that shot one inch groups routinely and would chamber damned near any ammo. He had a Ruger Number One that we had to buy small based dies to reload for, but his Remington pump digested virtually any thing!!

As mentioned above, the only thing wrong with the Remington pump rifles is the trigger. (They are pretty bad!!)

But, once again, I have always been amazed at how accurate they are.

I hear you all loud and clear on the trigger! Now days, with few exceptions, that seems to be the norm. The only factory rifle I've NOT had to have trigger work done on has been my Mtn LSS and even that one I adjusted myself. I guess the question is, can a competent gunsmith get these triggers into decent working order? I also understand that there is some kind of spring kit available for these triggers. Anyone know anything about them?

The accuracy part is a bit harder to nail down. We all know that there are MOA rifles and MOA shooters and it definitely takes both to shoot MOA. I just happen to beleave that there are a lot more MOA rifles around than there are MOA shooters..LOL


R Flowers - Rest assured....the Rem Mtn LSS isn't going anywhere!


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I'm assuming you plan on having your 7mm-08 Remington 7600 rebarreled from a short action model, since Remington does'nt list and as far as I know they never built the 7600 in this calibre before.
And if your getting the smith work done all the issues brought up here should be mitagated while the rifle is at the gunsmith.

POP

Thanks for the link. Sounds like a good start. Get a gunsmith to take out some of the creep and should be a fairly decent trigger.


SouthpawDW

Over the years, Grice Wholesale has had Remington do "special runs" for them. One of the 2005 special runs was a 7600 in 7mm-08. In years past they (Grice) have also offered the 7600 7mm-08 in both laminate and walnut.

Here is a link to the 7600 7mm-08 2005 offering.. Only problem is I don't know if I care for the maple stock very much. I may actually wind up doing as you suggest and pick up a 7600 in .308 and rebarrel it to 7mm-08.

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Tanks fer da info.

I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen. It has been a dream rifle. It is very accurate. I have taken more game with it than any other rifle I own.

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I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen. It has been a dream rifle. It is very accurate. I have taken more game with it than any other rifle I own.

Iron Buck

Have you done much whitetail hunting with the 35 Whelen? Seems like it might be a bit overkill.

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I would like to read more discussion on the 7600. When I was younger, I used the Remington 870 a lot, and became familiar with the pump action, so I always thought the pump rifle would be something I could adjust to well.

I think there is probably a way to get past the trigger problem, with some gunsmith work, so I am not too concerned about that. But there has been some discussion of rebarreling this action. From what I understand this would be more of a problem than it's worth. I'm not sure about this but I think that barrel is swaged or pinned in the receiver. I mean the factory does something other than just screwing it in like a bolt action. I did some limited research on this a few months ago, and as I remember, that was the conclusion I reached, based on the limited info I found. If anyone knows for sure about this, I would like to read what they have to say.

As far as the 35 Whelan being overkill --- well, I don't think so. I think it is an excellent choice for deer to moose and bear. In fact, the reason I was researching the rebarreling option was because I thought it would be intresting to have a 7600 in 9.3x62.

Kabluewy

I'm also interested in learning more about the possibilities of rebarreling. Would like a 7600 in 7mm-08 but the current offering from Grice has a ugly (in my eyes) maple stock. Might have to rebarrel if that's an option or just replace the maple stock with a laminated stock from Boyds.

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I just rebarreled my Rem 760 to 338/06 using a Shilen barrel. Havn't got a chance shoot it yet.

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I just rebarreled my Rem 760 to 338/06 using a Shilen barrel. Havn't got a chance shoot it yet.

OK I want to know some details. You tease us with a little information. Do you mean you rebarreled it yourself? Or, did you have a gunsmith do it for you? If the latter, could I have the same shop rebarrel one for me too?

Was it more costly or difficult than barreling a bolt action?

As I understand the way this action works, it locks up by some how the locking lugs rotate into an extension at the rear of the barrel, which is not part of the action, but milled out of the same piece of steel as the barrel. This concept seems fine for a factory rifle, but for custom work, a gunsmith may have to have a special setup. What did you learn from having the rifle rebarreled?

Thanks,
KB

D posted some photos last year when he had the barrel out and was ready to start. Glad you finished!

I can only speak for the 760 but I think they're similar. The barrel and extension assembly is held in place by the forearm hanger tube which unscrews. I use a steel rod through the two holes in the hanger. Once you figger out the process, it takes about 10 minutes to pull the barrel. Then you put the barrel in a standard barrel vise and unscrew the extension. That is where you need some ingenuity to make a wrench that will grasp the barrel extension without damaging it.

It's tight so you may want to make a relief cut on the barrel shank next to the extension. Or heat it up some.

IIRC, wasn't the question about right or left hand barrel threads a while back D?

All you have to do is thread and chamber the barrel like always, screw it into the extension just like it were a regular action and then reinstall the whole thing like you took it out.

If you did all your measuring correctly beforehand, it should headspace. If not you pull it all and make it right.

First Shot....These guys should be able to take care of any trigger problems for you.......... http://cgi.ebay.com/REMINGTON-7600-7400-760-740-LITE-PU...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Grant.

40-50 years ago Remington made a special run of 760s in .222 for the US Olympic team, I believe for the bialthon event. They shot well enough so the Olympics changed the rules.

I'm not one who believes you really need MOA for a woods deer rifle, and every 760 I've ever shot gave better accuracy than I really needed. No experience with the 7600, but I would not expect much difference.

d hum-your 338/06 project has always been in the back of the dark side of my mind. My evil twin big time wants to take over and do the project.

19" tube, all metal matte and wood all matte as well.

Ashley ghost peep and a fiber optic front.

Dreams....

Mark D

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Iron Buck

Have you done much whitetail hunting with the 35 Whelen? Seems like it might be a bit overkill.

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I bought my 7600 new in the early 90s primarily as a rifle for using on bear drives here in PA. It that respect it has worked great.I have cleanely killed 2 bears while being the driver, not the poster. It is a very fast handling gun.

I started using it for deer shortly after that. So far I've taken 15-16 whitetail with it. It is an honest bang/flop round. Dropping deer where they stand. And hunting in PA........if a deer can make it 100 yards he is typically going right to another hunter.

The Whelen has yet to kill them to dead

Leftoverdj: Those .222s were used for running boar and running deer targets. The USAF bought about 8 of them. Those without the required accuracy were rebarreled with heavier Douglas target barrels. The std barrels that shot well were fitted with barrel weights to increase the "swing" for follow through. I'm a lefty and had a chance to use one on the Lackland AFB Running Boar range back in 1968-1972. Great guns.

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That is where you need some ingenuity to make a wrench that will grasp the barrel extension without damaging it.

It's tight so you may want to make a relief cut on the barrel shank next to the extension. Or heat it up some.

I need to make a wrench that fits inside the extension.


I did it myself. It was not as easy as I first thought. Not as easy as a bolt gun thats for sure! One problem is that using a 760 the bolt lugs are on a helical which requires the extension to be super tight or the torque created when firing will turn the extension loosing it. I know why Remington tightened it like they did. Next time i will use a 7600 the lugs arn'tcut on a helical & therefore maybe the extension will not be sooooo damn tight!

Here is a photo of my experiment. The barrel is a used shilen that I turned down & chambered.

Thanks to all for your input!!!!

I've decided that I really "need" one of these 7600s

I went to a local gun shop and got to handle both the rifle (22") and carbine (18.5") versions. I must admit that I thought that the 18.5" carbine balanced, handled, and pointed better.

The problem is.....I was really kind of set on a 7mm-08 but am a bit uncertian about how a 7mm-08 would perform in an 18.5" barrel. Maybe I should go with a 30-06 in a carbine? Either way, I plan to keep my Rem 700 Mtn LSS 7mm-08, and I've already got 30-06 dies. Kind of makes sense to go with the 30-06 which would give me a little additional versitility as far as bullet weights are concerned. Sure like the 7mm-08 cartridge though!

What do you think? Which way would you go? Rem 7600 in 7mm-08 rifle or 7600 in 30-06 carbine?

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The 7mm-8 will perform well with a 18.5 barrel. They used to make the model 7 with that barrel. Wish they still did. I've handled the grice rifles in 7-08 I believe they only come with 22" barrels but a gunsmith could cut it down.

Thanks again for everyone's input.

I've decided to go with a carbine in 30-06. Like I said previously, I've already got the dies and the odd 6 will give me a a good bit more versalitiy where heavier bullets are concerned. I can use the 7mm-08 Mtn LSS for the fields and the 7600 pump for the woods and the 7mm-08 will be a good starter rifle for my son when he gets a little bigger.

I hope to be able to find a 7600 carbine with a laminated stock. May just get one with a tubbaware stock and replace it with a good Boyds laminated.

Done deal!! All I've got to do now is save my pennies!

Thanks again for all the insight and advise!

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