Does anyone have an experience at longer-range accuracy of Rem 700 vs. Ruger M77? I've been told that at 100 yards it's a wash, but over 300 yards is where the Remington shoots better. Is that true? The gun magazines always evaluate rifles at 100 yards, so I've found no data on 300 yard performance. Appreciate any insights - thx. This would be for a .270 btw.

Hunter308

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Originally posted by Hunter308:
I've been told that at 100 yards it's a wash, but over 300 yards is where the Remington shoots better. Hunter308

Why?? roger

the only way you can evaluate how a rifle performs at ANY distance is to shoot it. it is pure hogwash to suggest that a rem 700 (or any other rifle) will outshoot a ruger (or any other rifle) at a particular distance. rifles are like people. one may shoot very well (at 100 and on out to 600) with XXX brand of ammo and that same rifle might shoot "groups" with another ammo. people have their favorites, and thus tend to talk them up as opposed to some rifles they don't like. either a rem 700 or a hawkeye should prove sufficiently accurate for hunting. i suggest you get the one that feels best in your hands/at your shoulder, then start shooting. i have both 700s and rugers, and they all shoot just fine with the ammo they like. good luck

Others may dissagree but a rifle is acurate or its not. It is not likly to be accurate at 100 yards and inacurate at 300.
If you have a good group at 100 yards but not at 300 it is likly the ammo or more likly the shooter.
...tj3006

From my experience with Rugers, I would bet on the Remington being more accurate. I do like the looks of the Hawkeye though. I hope it shoots better than the M-77s I have had in the past.

I would not bet on any Remington these days.

Hunter308, from my limited experience, most of the time when a rifle will shoot a tight group at 100 yds. it will shot a similarly good group at longer distances, an example would be a .25" group at 100 yds will generally give a .5" group at 200 yds. Now here is where variables come into play. If the optics on said rifle are not of high enough quality to make longer shots such as somewhat paralax free and crisp and clear sight picture that will often cause groups to open up. Another problem, which is rarer, is the bullet may not be stabilized well enough and have the slightest bit of yaw at 100 yds it will increase yaw exponentially at longer ranges and accuracy will suffer greatly. I will say from the Remingtons and Rugers I have shot and owned that I find Remingtons for some reason easier to find accurate loads for. Whether that is just the ones that I have for reference I cannot say but that is may opinion.

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Originally posted by Jimmy P Coaltrain:
I would not bet on any Remington these days.

My sentiments exactly!! I am not impressed with most of the new stuff comming out of Remington these days. Back in the day, the Remy was a much more accurate rifle.