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14 February 2018, 06:12
ar corey
Best advice to build a 375 H&H
The more I consider the Mark 5 action, the more the 340 becomes the ultimate 400 yard elk rifle for the money, if you can shoot and a barrel brake certainly helps squeeze off 308 Winchester recoil. I could snipe a moose or elk all day like the next guy but what if you are in the next 90% category of a 400 yard shot on a calm morning, seems easy when dealing with clear optics like Sightron or Leupold but who really appreciates 308 recoil? The guy or gal at the bench working up their confidence reloading. I'll take 308 vs 338 recoil anyday.
14 February 2018, 06:16
ar corey
No doubt Lothar Walther is my barrel choice. I'll take hardened steel anyday. RL-16 or H4350 offer temp. stable options in the 340.
14 February 2018, 06:19
ar corey
There was a guy accurizing 1500 Howa's for like $3500.00 and he used Walther barrels exclusively.
14 February 2018, 06:21
A.J. Hydell
quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
No need for a muzzle brake.


I agree ... MBs are "crutches" for those unwilling to train themselves up to handling the recoil of the cartridge they choose to shoot.

quote:
A custom .375H&H build? A Mauser 98 action would be nice.


BRNO 602 action mo' better. Git one.


All The Best ...
14 February 2018, 06:21
ar corey
I have changed my mind again I might add to choice of bullet weight. 185 TTSX all the way if it shoots half inch.
14 February 2018, 06:25
ar corey
quote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
No need for a muzzle brake.


I agree ... MBs are "crutches" for those unwilling to train themselves up to handling the recoil of the cartridge they choose to shoot.

quote:
A custom .375H&H build? A Mauser 98 action would be nice.


BRNO 602 action mo' better. Git one.


Foolish quote concerning muzzle brake. People against muzzle brakes are those choosing to shoot 338 Magnum recoil vs 308 Winchester. Losers are proud and animals suffer.
14 February 2018, 06:41
A.J. Hydell
quote:
Originally posted by ar corey:
quote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
No need for a muzzle brake.


I agree ... MBs are "crutches" for those unwilling to train themselves up to handling the recoil of the cartridge they choose to shoot.

quote:
A custom .375H&H build? A Mauser 98 action would be nice.


BRNO 602 action mo' better. Git one.


Foolish quote concerning muzzle brake. People against muzzle brakes are those choosing to shoot 338 Magnum recoil vs 308 Winchester. Losers are proud and animals suffer.


Huh?

People opposed to muzzle brakes prefer to retain their auditory health and appreciate not being subjected to the lateral, concussive muzzle blast from your braked Mega-Magnum, whether such folks be guides, PHs, or fellow hunters. Roll Eyes

Figure it out, dude. It sure ain't rocket science. popcorn


All The Best ...
14 February 2018, 06:47
ar corey
Depends if you are typing about personal or family oriented meat hunting or general shooting.
14 February 2018, 22:44
Atkinson
AR.,
You have a PM..


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15 February 2018, 07:01
memtb
quote:
Originally posted by ar corey:
No doubt Lothar Walther is my barrel choice. I'll take hardened steel anyday. RL-16 or H4350 offer temp. stable options in the 340.


Just a guess here....but, I think that either of these two powders would be a bit “fast” burning in the .340 Weatherby. We’re using RL 22 in my wife’s .338 WM...though it is a “somewhat” compressed load.

If you do go, as light as the 185 grain...which confuses the hell out of me, RL 16 May work for you! memtb


You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
02 March 2018, 00:12
ar corey
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
AR.,
You have a PM..


Ray, never got the P. M.

Please resend if possible.
02 March 2018, 00:16
ar corey
quote:
Originally posted by memtb:

If you do go, as light as the 185 grain...which confuses the hell out of me, RL 16 May work for you! memtb
What is confusing about 100% weight retention?
I don't take Texas heart shots.
02 March 2018, 08:43
memtb
Maybe not taking Texas heartshots....but I just can’t get them all to give me the “textbook” broadside shot! But then, I foolishly have a spare tire for my truck! Wink
I’m not a math major, but, 100% of 185 grains....is still “only” 185 grains!
memtb


You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
02 March 2018, 15:22
ar corey
185 grain TTSX seems small because of the number. 180 grain in the 30-06 seems more balanced but reality is that the 340 Weatherby can fire projectile almost 500 fps quicker with hotloads. Adequate for shoulder shots.

Nobody complains when they get a complete pass through with their 180 grain 30-06.

There is a reason why the 338 Winchester Magnum is so popular on this forum.
02 March 2018, 17:18
mdstewart
If I was in the market for another .375 H&H and didn’t want to spend a fortune on a custom gun, I’d find a really nice Interarms Mark X Whitworth and hunt and love it. Best value out there.


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02 March 2018, 20:24
ar corey
quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
Get a brake if you want one.

Don't let anyone tell you that it's not needed to prevent you getting one.

It may not be needed to some but if you want one....get one

Heck..... I'm running a brake on a 6.5 CM and am loving it


Thanks Ted.
02 March 2018, 20:30
ar corey
quote:
Originally posted by MileHighShooter:


To brake or not to brake, your choice. I have a 375 coming to me that already has a brake on it, I'll try it out that way before having it cut off, mostly because I want a shorter barrel, but if it had already been cut down with the brake on it, I'd probably just leave it alone.


Mile,

Did you try the brake yet?
02 March 2018, 20:52
ar corey
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HrmWN0igJY0
02 March 2018, 21:16
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
quote:
Originally posted by ar corey:
quote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
No need for a muzzle brake.


I agree ... MBs are "crutches" for those unwilling to train themselves up to handling the recoil of the cartridge they choose to shoot.

quote:
A custom .375H&H build? A Mauser 98 action would be nice.


BRNO 602 action mo' better. Git one.


Foolish quote concerning muzzle brake. People against muzzle brakes are those choosing to shoot 338 Magnum recoil vs 308 Winchester. Losers are proud and animals suffer.


Huh?

People opposed to muzzle brakes prefer to retain their auditory health and appreciate not being subjected to the lateral, concussive muzzle blast from your braked Mega-Magnum, whether such folks be guides, PHs, or fellow hunters. Roll Eyes

Figure it out, dude. It sure ain't rocket science. popcorn


Bob Brister and John Wooters both suffered retinal detachments which their doctors blamed on repeated heavy recoil.

As I have said before, you will suffer hearing loss if you don't wear hearing protection - whether the rifle is braked or not.

I definitely don't want to go blind...


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02 March 2018, 23:38
ar corey
AZ,

Amen Brother.
02 March 2018, 23:43
ar corey
The question becomes whether plugs and muffs together, completely block any hearing damage from a muzzle brake?
03 March 2018, 11:51
Cougarz
If you want a brake then get one. Probably the best solution is to get a screw on version. That way you have some built in options.

One came on my .300 Weatherby Accumark but after using it a couple times at the range I never used it again. For me the rifle just doesn't have that much recoil to need it.


Roger
___________________________
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03 March 2018, 12:14
ar corey
https://www.parts-express.com/...0-spl-meter--245-263

SPL meter would clarify much.

Fire with and without brake.
04 March 2018, 23:00
Head Trauma
I would not build a 375 H&H, I went thru this a while ago.

I had a Montana 375 H&H X2 that was heavy, bulky,
and cumbersome. I replaced it with a 375 Ruger
Guide rifle, huge improvement.

Lighter, less bulky, much easier to carry, stupid
accurate, much higher velocities with my reloads.

The muzzle brake is very effective, turns it into a pussycat on the bench. Don't want a muzzle brake? Fine, take it off and drive on.

There is a lot to be said for instant gratification Cool
06 March 2018, 04:18
A.J. Hydell
quote:
Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
quote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
quote:
Originally posted by ar corey:
quote:
Originally posted by A.J. Hydell:
quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
No need for a muzzle brake.


I agree ... MBs are "crutches" for those unwilling to train themselves up to handling the recoil of the cartridge they choose to shoot.

quote:
A custom .375H&H build? A Mauser 98 action would be nice.


BRNO 602 action mo' better. Git one.


Foolish quote concerning muzzle brake. People against muzzle brakes are those choosing to shoot 338 Magnum recoil vs 308 Winchester. Losers are proud and animals suffer.


Huh?

People opposed to muzzle brakes prefer to retain their auditory health and appreciate not being subjected to the lateral, concussive muzzle blast from your braked Mega-Magnum, whether such folks be guides, PHs, or fellow hunters. Roll Eyes

Figure it out, dude. It sure ain't rocket science. popcorn


Bob Brister and John Wooters both suffered retinal detachments which their doctors blamed on repeated heavy recoil.

As I have said before, you will suffer hearing loss if you don't wear hearing protection - whether the rifle is braked or not.

I definitely don't want to go blind...


Then don't shoot the big bores. Stick to .22 squirrel rifles. No need for hearing pro, and your eyeballs will thank you at day's end. Roll Eyes

C'mon, dudes, using MBs on big bore rifles will absolutely damage hearing - yours and those around you.

Get focused, this auditory-healthy shit ain't rocket science. Whistling

Don't want to risk retinal damage shooting a .375 Mega-Magnum? Fine, no problem.

Hunt with a .308 and call it good. If it's a mean critter with horns or claws, well, don't worry. If your shot-placement's off because you jerked the trigger, your PH or guide will dispatch said critter before it stabs or claws you.

Remember, at the end of the day, it's better to be a poor shot with a lesser caliber than become a deaf or blind hunter over time from using too much cartridge and a MB.

Your PH, guides, and/or fellow hunters will all thank you later for your display of civility in choosing to hunt with a moderate 30-cal cartridge in a non-braked rifle ...

Hell of a party back at the lodge later, I'm sure. beer


All The Best ...
06 March 2018, 05:16
rnovi
Wow! This is getting a bit heated in here! I didn't know posting a Large Bore in the Medium Bore forum would get so much debate going.

Smiler

I'm rather late to the game here but thought I'd chime in nonetheless.

For me, I wanted something lighter and shorter. A Montana 1999 with a 20" barrel and 8# Scoped with a VX6 1-6 was my answer. I didn't expect it but I get 4 down + 1 in the chamber. With a max load (Speer Manual, 80 Gr. of H4350, max was 81.5) I can get 2,550 fps with a 300. Personally, I think that's a bit on the hot side and have "settled" with the Nosler max of 75.0 of H4350 for a working load at 2,400 fps (20" bbl remember).

Recoil on the .375 H&H I've found to be pretty relaxed really. A soft Limbsaver on a B&C stock (aluminum blocks) has made the recoil more than tolerable from the bench - I've fired as many as 50 rounds in a sitting without ill effects.

I wanted something that would be light enough to carry in the field all day, short enough to not get hung up on branches (no irons on mine), and ugly enough to not care about abuse. The action was pretty rough but a few weeks working Flitz on the rails smoothed it all up nice and slick.

Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to use it on Cape Buff but that's on the list!


Regards,

Robert

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H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer!
18 March 2018, 00:04
308Sako


Sako Safari, find one and you will love the way they shoot.






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18 March 2018, 04:55
A.J. Hydell
quote:
Originally posted by 308Sako:

Sako Safari, find one and you will love the way they shoot.


Now that ones a real beauty!


All The Best ...
18 March 2018, 07:55
308Sako
Thank you Sir,

This rifle was blessed with a trip to Zim back in the early 1990's and found it's way into the hearts and minds of a couple of Buff bulls and a lovely Leopard. That said I can't speak highly enough about this FACTORY rifle. All one needs and perhaps more.








Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now!
DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set.