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I have inherited a .264 Win Mag from a brother. It is precious to me but I dearly want to make it a user. I am past my hunting days. But sure do like pestering paper at the range.

I am looking for some light load info for the rifle that won't burn out the barrel but will give me a chance to hit the critter at 100 and 200 yards. I don't know that muzzle velocity is as important to me as accuracy.

This my first post to the forum but I have been an avid reader for near a year and learned a lot of great info. Thanks for any reply.

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120grain ballistic tips "loaded down" to 3000fps, basically starting loads with faster propellants,
IMR4064 50gr.

This load can be pushed up to 54gr/3140fps (24" barrel Nosler #5 manual)

And if you decide to actually kill something with it the same basic load with a 125gr partition at 3000fps should work
on anything smaller than Elk and can be loaded up to 3100fps (53.5gr)

IMR4350 also works well in the 264Win.

I've always believed that the 264Win was at it's best with 120-125gr bullets as 140's slow it down too much, unless you have a secret source of H870 which nobody around here can seem to get....

From my experience with the 264Win if you prefer ball propellants use only the Federal 215primer.
The 264Win is the one cartridge I've loaded for that
I could never find a "happy" load for Nosler bullets
with RL propellants.

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It sounds like you want to load it down to 6.5 x 54 MS velocities and while I don't disagree with Allan in principal, you might find 150 or even 160 gr round nose bullets at about 2400 really pleasant to shoot and genuine killers out to 300 yds.


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Allen has a good recommendation. May I add that 100 grain BTs are also available and several powders can control them to about 3200 or so.

Hornady also makes a V-Max in 100 grains for that caliber.


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And what you could do with a Nosler 100gr partition (really designed for the 260Rem) is inspiring...

3550 is EASY with either N160 or IMR4831

Loading them slower than 3200 might prove difficult with published data though....

Yeah, longer heavier bullets might have better BC's
but the best of them take a long trip to catch
up with a really fast lighter bulletSmiler

but they are going to make a messy entrance hole at any distance inside of 400yardsSmiler

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Finding accurate loads around halfway between starting loads and maximum loads should serve your purposes. The 125 grain Nosler Partition is an excellent bullet for moderate loads in the 264 Win Mag. Barrels are more likely to see reduced life by letting the them get too hot when using full power loads.

264 Win Mag
125 grain Nosler Partition seated to 3.265" COAL

48 grains Accurate 4350 START 2500 fps
51 grains Accurate 4350 HUNTING approx. 2670 fps
54 grains Accurate 4350 MAXIMUM 2843 fps

52 grains Accurate 3100 START 2530 fps
55 grains Accurate 3100 HUNTING approx. 2700 fps
58 grains Accurate 3100 MAXIMUM 2880 fps

68 grains Accurate 8700 START 2760 fps
73 grains Accurate 8700 HUNTING approx. 2950 fps
77 grains Accurate 8700 MAXIMUM 3142 fps

51 grains Reloder 19 START
54 grains Reloder 19 HUNTING
57 grains Reloder 19 MAXIMUM 3070 fps

Also check the Nosler manual.


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rucky:

For your use, I'd suggest IMR4350. It's not the "classic" powder for the 264. But I've found that it works well. (And I believe that Sierra recommends it as their "accuracy" powder)

I had a pre64 264 Featherweight a while back. Since it only had a 22" bbl, I tried 4350 with 120gr Nosler Solid Bases. It was kinda like a super 25/06...still sorry I sold it.

My current 264 (26" bbl)shoots 140gr Sierra's into very small groups using 4350. Recoil is very mild and it kills deer/hogs/javelina/coyotes like lighting.

I use a 125 Partition with 7828 for "serious" hunting, but the 140gr Sierra/4350 load gets a lot more use.

good luck with your special rifle!
 
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The best way to get around a lack of data is to call the powder companies and tell their ballistician what you want to accomplish. They are ususally very happy to help with odd-ball requests and know how to keep you out of trouble.


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Here is my load wont burn your barrel.I love it Lapula 155 gr mega tip and 70 grs of H-870 .Its shoots 3/8" in my gun at 100 yards.I poped two antelope at 350 yards it flattened little meat damage.I also shot a 275 pound deer it got him in his tracks too.Balastic tips bill blow up.
 
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I think olarmy got pretty close to what your are looking for. Except I would recommend a clean burning 4831 class of powder,one with a wide sweet spot. The higher pressures of the fast burning powders,in this caliber, 4350 is fast, have higher heat,and heat melts throats.With this skinny a tube,any dirty burning powder will increase pressure as well.They make 6.5 140gr. match bullets,as well.


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Except I would recommend a clean burning 4831

I vote for 4831 as well.


As usual just my $.02
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I've had good luck with 4831 in mine. I only tried to duplicate the 6.5x55 120 gr trajectory using 140 bullets since it will be my rifle of choice for a NZ hunt that includes Red Stag on the agenda.

My 140 gr Swifts seem to group at 1" at 100. I've only done limited testing just because it's too cold yet for much range time. Warmer weather will give me more time to check it out.

Good luck.


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I think I will give the Nosler bullets a try along with the 4831. Thanks for the great advise.
 
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