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7mil 08 139gr hornady
07 January 2016, 13:11
WhelanLad7mil 08 139gr hornady
hi guys I'm hjust after some hand on info with the 139 gr hornady interlock for use on big game, deer, moose, elk, bear African species whatever , if you have shot it let me know youre thoughts on it.
I'm a little unsure regarding the numbers, but should be a good bullet for Sambar deer down under.
wont be reloading the projectiles for a little while as I have 30 Fed 150gr blue box rounds .
I asked on the CGN campfire, an thought id gather a broader audience response here
thanks
WL
07 January 2016, 19:01
Fury01I shot a few Mule deer with that exact combo. Worked every time. Rem 788 with 18 1/2" barrel. Very accurate as well in this gun.
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07 January 2016, 20:45
LuckyduckerI have shot a lot of deer with interlock Hornady bullets but not with the 7/08, and these bullets performed very well every time. I will say that I worked up a handload for the Rem 700 CDL in 7/08 I bought for my daughter using the 139 Hornady IL and IMR4064 that is stellar for accuracy. Try them and I can bet you'll like them.
Dennis
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07 January 2016, 22:07
pagosawingnutI've used them on bear successfully out of a Rem XP-100 at around 2650 and they did the job just fine.
08 January 2016, 00:58
NakihunterThe Hornady 139 gr SP is ideal for medium to small deer - Reds, Sika, Fallow, pigs etc.
Will they kill Sambar, Eland etc. Sure. Remember the poacher on a bicycle who used to shoot elephants in the arm pit with a 22 LR!
The real question is whether you want to be 100% sure of your bullet killing a BIG animal cleanly at all angles in the field out to 250 or 300 meters! That is where the 139 gr Hornady will be really tested. If you hit a big bone, you will not get penetration. The animal might die - ultimately - after running away and hiding.
For large game like Eland or elk or sambar I would use a TSX - 150gr or 160 gr Accubond in the 7mm08. The TSX will exit at most angles out to 250 meters.
If you are partial to Hornady, thee 154 gr bullet would be a better choice for large animals.
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08 January 2016, 02:20
wasbeemanI've killed quite a few WTs and Mulies with a 140gr bullet out of a 7-08. Nothing larger but if I were gonna use it for elk and up, I think I'd opt for a heavier bullet.
And when you say "bear" are you talking about a 200# blackie or a 500# grizzly?
Aim for the exit hole
08 January 2016, 03:02
Lamarkeep it below 2900 fps MV.
I have killed yotes, deer, and elk with the 139 interlock.
oh and a yearling moose on a control unit.
some rabbits, a fox or two, a couple of steers, some pigs, a feral dog, a couple of porcupine, a half dozen skunks, 2-3 turkeys, and probably a hundred rock chucks.
I probably forgot something or two, but I seem to do okay with it.
08 January 2016, 03:25
WhelanLadquote:
Originally posted by wasbeeman:
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And when you say "bear" are you talking about a 200# blackie or a 500# grizzly?
Neither!
The Australian Drop Bear
WL
08 January 2016, 05:27
AtkinsonIve used it a lot in the 7x57 over the last maybe 70 years, and the 7x57 is a bit more than the 7-08 when handloaded but results would be near identical from a practical standpoint IMO...The 139 gr. Hornady SP works fine on animals up to about 150 to 200 lbs. like deer, pronghorn, and most African PG. of like size..
For elk, eland,Moose, and such I would much prefer a 160 gr. Nosler partition or Woodleigh..The 150 GS Customs HVHP (RSA) bullet is awesome on anything short of elephant, Hippo and its borderline on Cape buffalo IMO, and not recommended under most circumstances. I used it on elk quite a bit with satisfaction.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
08 January 2016, 07:31
chaquote:
Neither!The Australian Drop Bear
You whacker !
Whelan,The best I have done on sambar with the 7mm-08, was a couple of 27" stags. Stag No1, was him standing up in his bed and collecting a 140gn partition behind the shoulder, (to much stuff in the way prevented a neck shot) Stag No2,flat sticking it broadside on the other side of the gully at 180-200yds. The crosshair on his neck and slowed down the swing till it was coming onto his shoulder and squeezed off he mowed down 30yds of scrub before stopping at his bed. How the hornady compares with the partitions, You will have to find someone with experience. Mine is limited to 140gn part. in the 7mm-08.
All the best
Kevin
08 January 2016, 17:20
Mike_DettorreIt's a fine bullet and you have picked a fine weight for that cartridge.
It is my favorite cup and core bullet.
You punch one of those into the lungs of anything under 1000 lbs and you will getting your knife out in short order.
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08 January 2016, 22:44
p dog shooterI shoot them at 2400 out of my 7x57 1895 mauser scout rifle they work well
12 January 2016, 00:54
AtkinsonRight, it has always amazed me how well a big heavy bullet at slow velocity kills game..I used to shoot my old Mauser mod. 95 with factory 175 gr. factory ammo at about 2200 FPS and it was a real killer, even at extended range. at least on elk and deer.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
12 January 2016, 08:56
CougarzI had a M93 Spanish Mauser as my first hunting rifle. The factory 175's were my preferred load for deer and elk but the 140's worked great on a couple blacktail deer. I mostly shot Rem Core-lokt's.
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12 January 2016, 21:59
ZekeShikarI shot a bunch of deer with the old 139 Hornady in both the flat base and boat tail in my 7mm Rem mag.
While it was plenty destructive/explosive, it always worked just fine.
Thinking back on the bullet's performance, that pill in the 7-08 would be a much better match.
Zeke
13 January 2016, 16:28
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
It's a fine bullet and you have picked a fine weight for that cartridge.
It is my favorite cup and core bullet.
You punch one of those into the lungs of anything under 1000 lbs and you will getting your knife out in short order.
what Mike said -- i don't like them past 2900-3000 fps, so not a full house big 7 bullet, but a fine one in the 708/7x57 etc...
if it were me, i'd likely use a heavier/better bullet (those aren't mutually inclusive) for brown bear or african game, if i had a choice