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700P and Sendero the same?
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I just picked up a used Rem 700P (police) and I noted it's stamped Sendero on the barrel. The date code is "OX" which I think means it's a 2002 gun, it can't be much older as it's a 300 RUM. I just wonder if anyone else has one marked like this or is it some sort of internal recycling by Remington? The salesmen stated it was some type of SHOT show demonstration rifle, but salemen say anything. He did have 4 identical guns to choose from.

It's aluminum bedded. I notice the front of the reciever only hits the aluminum in two places. Is this normal (I guess I mean correct) or should the reciever bear over the entire surface? I have yet to shoot it. Any words of advice? I have already adjusted the trigger down, it was typical lawyer hard.
 
Posts: 967 | Location: Michigan, USA | Registered: 28 November 2003Reply With Quote
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The two aren't the same as far as I know. The 700P that I own has a much more coarse parkerized finish than the matte blued Senderos. The Matte Blue Senderos have a smooth matte finish much like that of the cheap adls.

The 700Ps also have palm swells and wider beavertail forearms than the Sendero.

Are you sure you didn't just buy a Sendero in a 700P stock?

Both are great shooting rifles.

Good Luck w/ your new toy

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If I did it was done at the factory or the barrel has been switched. It came with the box that matches the serial number on the gun. The box says Police, the barrel says Sendero. The gun you discribe is like this one, kind of a big varmint rig, exactly what I wanted. The finish is very rough and glare free. I hope to shoot it this weekend.
 
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your gun is a parts gun. The barrel stating sendero means it came from a sendero,..NOT a PSS. The finish may match, but that had to be done by someone else. ifin it was a shop gun that stated it was the real deal,..I'd be getting some change back,..just out of spite. there is no doubt even as it is, that it will shoot incredibly well. I have yet to see any HB rem700 (sendero, PSS, VS, VLS, VSSF) not shoot 1/2" and better with a good shooter behind it.


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Thanks for the info. I didn't know if P's had Sendero on them normally or not. Any chance this was done at Remington? It's odd that the store had 4 of these, all Sendero marked barrels. The box has the correct chambering listed (300 RUM) and as I said, matching serial number. Since the barrels are basically the same would a gun company just grab some from the other bin to keep production going? I know in automotive things like that happen.

Anyone know when 300 RUM was first offered in the police model? Maybe these were prototypes? a Sendero parkerized and tossed in a P stock. That's basically what the store clerk said...could a gun store clerk actually tell the truth? Big Grin
 
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I have never seen a 700 P with Sendero stamped anywhere on it, and I've seen alot. I'd call Remington and give them the serial # they should be able to tell you how it left the factory.
 
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I wouldn't say it couldn't happen in a manufacturing environment where profit is the bottom line Frowner As suggested, I'd call big green and inquire as to the serial number.

Like I said,..if the thing shoots like I would bet it does,..it wouldn't bother me in the least. Now, if it for some reason had a flaw in it's performance, then I would use it as leverage to have the factory fix it free. I still doubt that will be the case,..I bet she sings the same tune I have come to know so well regarding these rifles.


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Good suggestions on call the company! I can't believe they would answer an individual, I always expect to get blown off. Sounds like it was made that way.

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According to the serial # you have provided, your gun was manufactured in 2003 and is a Model 700 Police bolt action rifle chambered in .300 Remington Ultra Mag, with a 26" barrel. The Sendero rifles are heavy barreled long range target style rifles usually with flutes on the barrel. The particular model that you have bought is basically a police finish with a Model 700 Sendero barrel (stainless).


This one is without flutes. Kind of cool to end up with a stainless barrel on an overbore like the RUM. If I can't get it to shoot I can always call it the 700 Police Ordained Sendero! Big Grin
 
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Quick check with Rem. Mil/LE division would confirm if truly factory built rifle or not. Not aware that the 700PSS rifle being offered in 300RUM, but of course possible. Last batch we had locally were in 308/300Win Mag,/ 223 Rem.
Believe as mentioned above, your rifle is an assembled one by someone other than the factory. Never know, might be that proverbial tack driver and if so, great.
 
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Originally posted by driver:
Not aware that the 700PSS rifle being offered in 300RUM, but of course possible. Last batch we had locally were in 308/300Win Mag,/ 223 Rem.


Remington's LE site shows the PS as available in RUM:

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/700p.htm
 
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Hello Indychris,
Thanks for the update. Sounds like they are really wanting to reach out there and touch someone these days!! From a civilian long range shooter's viewpoint, it would seem to me that the cost of feeding that rifle and the probable short barrel life would not be an asset to the shooter????
When a long range shooter is really out there active in the sport, he or she will burn some 3000 plus rounds a year with not only actual matches, but load deveopment, practice, sight selections, etc. so cost and recoil would be a negative factor. I don't know the accuracy of the 300RUM, but would have to venture it is fine??? Again, thanks for the update
 
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I have a 700 PS in .300 RUM and it is a nice rifle and shoots well, I have a load which uses 200 gr Nos Accubonds with 88 gr of AR2225 (Retumbo) that goes just over 1/2" at 110 yards, it is mild I think. It will shoot 150 gr and 200 gr Nos BT's and Nos accubonds in the .2's and .3's at 110 yards but I get ejector marks.

The rifle has a Mark 4 6.5-20x50 in badger rings and badger 20moa base. Trigger has been changed out for a canjar. I am happy with it for the uses I have for this gun.
 
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Hello PC,
Sounds like it works for you!! Noticed you have the long range base (s) on your rifle and have you shot it at the 1000 yard mark?? Reason I ask is would not think you would need the long range base even at the 1k mark with the lighter, faster bullet??? Just curious. 7.62mmNATO round, 308 Win., when sighted in at 100 yds., w/ 155Palma bullet will require approx. 37-41 moa of elevation to be on at 1K. Familiar with your optics and believe you have something over 90 moa of elevation so you could probably be able to reach without the long range bases since your caliber/round is a higher performance one than the 308. Again, just curious and glad the rifle works out for you.

Not sure where you are in Australia, but spent some time north of Perth some years ago in an area known as Mt. Neuman (can't remember proper spelling) iron ore region plus north of there in "boonies" on your northern coast. Off your northern coast, that area of sea and islands can be a bit on the nasty side for the pirates seem to not know their days are over!! That Rem 700 300RUM would work nicely there. Good Luck!
 
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Thanks Driver,

I have not tried it at long range yet, the longest shot I have pulled off with it so far is 439 paces, I got the long range base so that it's ready for it should the want arise. I am in Victoria and usually need to get to N.S.W to get some open plains for this .300 RUM (only taken it interstate once to date).
 
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