Someone please tell me about this round. Is there brass available, either proper / headstamped or something that could be used in a pinch? I know bullets would be no problem, since it's a 308. Actually looks like it would be much like the 308 win.

Just wondering, as I found a really nice K-31 with my favorite kind of figure (curly) in the stock; also noticed that NECG carries a very price but slick clamp on side-scope mount for the K-31.

Thanks,
Todd

I would recommend buying the K31-the curly stock just makes a super rifle nicer. I have a few of them but none with the fiddleback stocks. Brass was available from Grafs with the Frontier and 7.5x55 headstamp. It has sold out but more is on the way and supposed to be in the US within a month or two. Grafs still has loaded ammo using this brass. The brass is most excellent-made in Yugoslavia or whatever they call it now. I use Lee dies as they were cheap but function fine.

Indep(Portugese made) loaded ammo is available here and there but is somewhat underpowered according to most. However the brass is good too according to what I have read. Brass is easily made from .284 Win as well. Check out Swiss Rifle Forum for lots of great info on the K31. Buy it. Plateau Hunter

Brass and loaded hunting ammos are available from Norma, spotty availability from Hornady and Graff's. FMJ non-hunting ammo headstamped FNM by Indep can be found at Cole's Distributers,AIM, and others. Excellent accuracy and quality, berdan primed, 174gr cu/ni plated, steel jacketed lead cored, swiss mil surplus gp-11 is avalable also. Try local vendors at gun show too for the above mentioned items along with maybe local custom loads for the 7.5X55 swiss. WIN 284 brass to 7.5 swiss is about as simple as it gets for reforming brass. Yes, ballistically, it is quite similar to 308 or 7.62NATO. I think NECG's is a $250-300 dollar Swiss(I'll give out some price guessing) made right-side clamp-on mount. For less money Brownell's has a($125-150) US made right-side clamp-on and still less money a ($50-75) US made left-side drill 'n' tap mount available. There are several other scout type($50-250) mounts available by other suppliers, the names of which I don't recall at present. Excellent clamp-on diopter(reciever) sights are available(Swiss or US made). Crank up the search engines. K-31's are relatively inexpensive now. Get'em now while the gettin's good. They were quite pricey in the not long ago past. IMHO, The k-31 prices will probably rise again when the current availability starts to disappear. Best-o-Luck

One of the better forums for the Swiss rifles is;
http://pub55.ezboard.com/bcollectorguns35625

I bought this one from AIM, on Tuesday. Degreased every thing, raised the worst of the dents, rubbed in 5 coats of TRU-OIL and dulled the shine with 0000 steel wool packed with paste wax.
I shot about 30 rounds today at 50 and 100 yds. from a field rest, the groups were almost "scope sighted" in size.


[ 03-02-2003, 11:29: Message edited by: TERRY8mm ]

I bought two of these rifles and I must say they are among the most accurate rifles I have ever seen. I bought about 1,000 rounds of the 174 grain Swiis ammo and it is excellent! My eyes are not the greatest anymore but in spite of that fact I shot a 5 shot group that had the first two shots in the X ring and the next 3 shots in the 10 ring right next to the first two shots! The group measured a little over 5/8 of an inch! As far as brass goes try Huntington's in Oroville, California. They have a lot items that are tough to find at normal gunshops. If you want to call them you may ask for "Floyd" he is very helpful.

K-31's are Cadillacs selling for Yugo prices.

When they used to have the Sarcee Range open at Canadian Forces Base Calgary (in Alberta, Canada), we high power shooters on the Alberta Provincial Team used to watch the local Swiss citizens fire their K-31's to qualify every year.

The Swiss government apparently required them to qualify annually wherever they were living in the world, and helped them obtain K-31's with diopter sights to do it with. The Swiss gov't also flew in Swiss ammo for them to practice and qualify with.

Anyway, their rifles were every bit as accurate "over the course" as our high-dollar match rifles. Sometimes considerably more so!!

So, when I moved to Arizona in 1982, I kept my eye open for one. I finally found one in a shop on Indian School Road, but the owner wanted $1,200 for it. 15 years later, Simpson started to bring them into the 'States and sell them for ca. $400. I bought one immediately.

I now also have an 1885 Corbaz Swiss Martini schuetzen rifle for the same cartridge (rechambered in 1911, according to the proof marks). Lastly, I have a M88 Winchester rifle in .30-284. All three use the same ammo, interchangeably, and fired cases from any one fit the other two!

For cast bullets, 32.5 grs. of Varget behind the Ideal 308329 bullet in Win .284 cases shoot MOA at 100 yards in my rifles. For full-power loads that shoot smaller groups, I use 57 grs. of H-4831 and 180 gr. jacketed RN bullets (to fit the short mag of the M88). These are guaranteed safe only in my guns, when loaded by me. YMMV, and probably will. Work up your own loads.

Anyway, great cartridge and rifle, that K-31.