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I am buying a CZ 9.3x62 rifle and will be handloading for it... I will be mainly using it for whitetail and hogs. What is the softest bullet that will work best on deer??? Thanks for the help. Robbie | ||
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Rob I use the 250 Nosler or the 270 speer west of you over in Bradley co. Either one works just fine. Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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A 250 gr Accubond or Ballistic tip would be fine. Then again, a 285 gr Prvi Partizan soft point would work nicely too. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Thanks...didnt realize they made a BT for it... D Humbarger...how does it do on white tail?? We hunt kind of the same area..I hunt close to Camden. Alot of my hunting buddies have started using the 325 WSM with great results. | |||
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The old man shot a mule deer forkie with his (mine) 9.3x62 Sauer 202 last Fall. Stone dead. 250 Accubond, not sure about the load. Probably minimum knownign dad. | |||
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I use the 286gr Partition for everything. It works great on whitetail...and everything else. Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Don't run the 270gr speer too fast, they are darn near explosive when run 2400fps +. Probably work fine on deer but I couldn't get one to penetrate a moose neck, and couldn't find any sizable parts of the bullet either. It was a real mess | |||
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Nice choice of rifle and caliber. The 9.3 works well with conventional bullets at around 2300fps or so, just like the 7x57 I nearly bought one but opted for the 375 H&H, it has an edge at longer ranges.Enjoy your new rifle. | |||
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Has anyone tried the new Hornady 286gr. Interlock SP-RP bullet on game ? | |||
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I've used Hornady's 286gr bullet on a couple of Eastern White Tail deer. I'm running them just below 2,400fps with satisfactory accuracy. No drama, they just punched through a 150 - 200# animal without any apparent problem, no bullet or jacket fragments in the wound channel and little blood shot meat. I'd probably use them on most anything you'd hunt with a 9.3x62. | |||
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Rob we are about 50 miles apart. Our club in the south end of Bradley co 5 miles north west of Felsenthal WMA. The woods are thick thats why I like the 9.3mm with that heavy bullet at moderate velocity. The 9.3 knocks the snot out of Deer. They drop in their tracks. No having to go get the dogs to find your deer after it ran off in that thick stuff after being hit. No bloodshot meat either. A long shot is 250 yards or so. We do have cutovers & thats where I pull out my FN400 in 284 Win. Just waiting until Noverber 10th Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Thanks Guys...I just got a great deal on CZ550 full stock with a Zeiss Diavari on it and was kind of second guessing my decision...November 10th cant get here fast enough for me!!! DHUM..you understand what hunting in South Ark is like...a cutover is a nasty rascal at night on deer that is hardly bleeding...I have gotten to where I like to put a really big hole in them..seem to bleed better that way!!! I am getting some dies, brass and Speer 270grn bullets with the deal..Cant wait til it gets here now!!!! | |||
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Campfire gun? Thank you. I am building one but that one was tempting | |||
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Yes sir I found it on the campfire... I think it was a pretty good deal. I love the full stock rifles. | |||
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You cannot go wrong with ANY soft point bullet as they are all reliable at the velocity out of a 9.3X62. I have a lot of information, old articles and loads as well as bullet rest reports. PM me with your email and I will send them to you. The 232 gr Norma would work at about 2700 fps. the 250 gr Nosler Accubond would be ideal too. The 286 gr Privi or Lapua Mega are also reliable on game - even on buffalo - according the guys who have lots of experience. 107 years old and still going strong. No ..... only a young 10 yers old in the US of A .... "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Thanks Nakihunter...PM sent...really appreciate it. | |||
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Hello Guys + 1 on the 9.3x62, I've just been out with mine for the first time this evening, its a Model B Mauser from 1924, open sights, 7 1/4 lbs, but it was great to shoot with the Norma 286's I had. I'm going to try paper patched bullets in mine as it will be primarily a plinking rifle unless I'm going into something really thick like the Catlin's (Naki Hunter - think thickest Urerewas) Nakihunter - I'd love that info too. PM on its way. | |||
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...861094031#8861094031 Check this old post. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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I have killed east Texas and Oklahoma whitetails with all three bullets, and they all performed perfectly. To be honest, I use the 285 gr PRVI in my "hog" load and have dropped boars up to 350 lbs in their tracks. I like the PRVI bullets because they are cheap. | |||
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used mine this past fall in michigan. 250gr tsx worked as expected. deer made it about 40yds. very small amount of bloodshot meat. | |||
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286 North Fork at 2486 muzzle velocity will make a running whitetail go end over end. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Hi Roby, I shoot my roe deer (between 12 and 20 kg!) with my .375H&H - using 300grs Hornady RN and a strong load... not joking - the meat damage is less then with my .30-06! So take the 9,3x62 as well - use a good and strong bullet suitable for game you be able to hunt with it and nothing less and it should work - WHY NOT? You must hit the right spot - that is the task, regardless of the caliber you are using - that is the issue that kills most! This one was the last I shot with my .375H&H Uploaded with ImageShack.us | |||
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Great cartridge, I have killed one deer with it from my custom 21" barrel mauser. One shot dropped in its tracks. Saddly they no longer make the ballistic tip but they do make the same weight accubond. (250Gr) Les | |||
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ScubaPro...that is awesome about the roe deer...My son just moved back home from Germany and told me all about the deer he saw while living there. I am definitely looking forward to hunting with it this fall. I tried to find some 250 gr BTips...but nobody wanted to part with any. Thanks for the help. Rob | |||
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Hi Rob, well, I exspect more damage from 250grs then from those 300grs as they are harder and due to the higher weight slower... Oh well, unfortunally the roe deer is the only deer species in my area here around, but we have wild boars here - just waiting for the next full moon season... ;-) Have good luck with your 9,3 Rob and don´t let anybody fool you - if You have a precise working gun and beeing able to shoot it - why not using it? - it can not be "Too big" for anything... (If I could forfill my dream one day for a .450 NE double, there is no doubt I will use it here for roe deer and boar also...) | |||
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I have only used factory ammo supplied by my PH on game. One year it was the fully bonded 286gr Norma Oryx which should be similar to Nosler Accubond. The other was Serbian made Highlander and the 286gr round nose is very thinly jacketed and probably softer than 270gr Speer. The Norma performed great on a large Kudu and large Wildebeest. The kudu was through and through. The wildebeest was a difficult quartering away shot and the bullet stopped just under the skin of the offside shoulder, still intact and retaining most of its weight. The Highlander bullets came completely apart on broadside shots on a large zebra. Only one of 3 exited and the jacket from it fell in the blood spatter less than two feet after exit. I killed an impala (roughly whitetail size)on both trips. Both bullet types went through and through and gave quick kills. So for whitetails I think any 9.3 bullet is fine. | |||
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Last trip to Namibia I culled a lot of kudu cows and eland cows with 286gr. Nosler Partitions. Perfect. I've had great luck with elk with the NP's and the one deer I shot with this bullet, wow. I've used the Prvi's on antelope, and deer with perfect results. Accurate, complete pennetration, minimal meat loss and maximum dead animal. The 232gr Norma's are excellent but the POI is significantly higher, 4 inches over the NP's, when pushed to 2700fps in my rifle that I slowed then down to 2450 so as to not have to mess with the scope. The result, the 232gr make a great reduced recoil load that absolutely drops deer DRT. One comment though penetration can be "strange" with these bullets as they tend to flatten out and look like a buttom mushroom and will skitter "sideways" along the far ribs or under the hide. They may not be taking a straight path through the body cavity either but it is of little consequence since the lungs etc are "roto-rootered" and pour out. If you are looking for a pure deer bullet I would recommend them highly, second choise would be the Prvi's. The NP's are fantastic but serious over-kill. | |||
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I have shot a lot of game with a 9,3x74R, and I have used several different bullets. For game from coyotes to cape buff the 286gr Woodleigh SP and the 286gr Nolser Partition will work great on all of them... However for the best low cost bullet for deer and pigs take a look at the 270 Speer. Loaded at 2490fps I have killed several a few coyotes, a couple of turkeys, several deer, and several pigs, including one over 300 lbs. In all cases this Speer bullet has performed perfectly. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Last season I shot this whitetail with a 250 Accubond at 2550 fps. I was on a cutline with deer trails about 75 yds to either side of me. This guy walked almost to the edge directly in front of me at about 20 yds, but stopped behind a big spruce. All I could see were his head and antlers, he was looking right at me! After about 10 seconds he'd had enough and bolted in a semi-circle around a rock outcrop. He came into a little clearing at about 40 yds just long enough for me to plant one low in the ribs right behind the front leg. There wasn't much to the tracking job, it was the most blood I've ever seen an animal lose from one shot. Turns out I squared the heart perfectly and there was really nothing left of it. He still managed to go 80 or so yds with no heart left in his cheat. I speculate that the bullet came apart based on the wounds. The entrance was about the size of a softball, the exit about like a golf ball. There was a secondary wound channel that went straight up the near side, inside the ribs that came out the top of the animal between the shoulder and backbone. Could have been a chunck of rib, but more likely a chunck of bullet. | |||
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Thanks guys...I got a box of 270 Speers...I wasnt able to score a box of 250 BTips...but will definitely keep my eyes open for them. | |||
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I've got both a 9.3x57 and 9.3x62, and find no problem using them for deer. But consider the location. They work well indeed, and I like using them for that purpose. With the 9.3x57, the Speer 270 gr is just perfection. Slow thump, with minimal meat damage. I've got a bunch of the 250gr BTs, but they don't work as well in the 9.3x57 as the 270g Speers. IMO, the 250gr BTs are excellent bullets, so I'm working up a load that's mild if not reduced in the 9.3x62 with them for deer. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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the 9.3x62 is quite popular in aust now with sambar hunters. i use 250gr woodleigh rnsp, with awesum effect on these big animals, if you can get them give them a go........... | |||
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As much as I like the cost and accuracy of the 270 Speers, I find them too soft as they leave chunks of lead in the wound canal and several have veered wildly after impact. No question that they kill deer ... but it can be ugly. The 250 gr Accubond and the 286 gr Partition projectiles do a superb job. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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I have used a 9.3x62 on driven hunts in Europe where everything from red deer to roe deer were on the "menu". Very effective...with surprising little meat damage when shots are well located. Absolute hog stopper....better than the 300 Win Mag I have also used. On one week end, I piled up 9 hogs...none got beyond their own shadow...all in a heap (9,3x62 RWS HMK 16,7 gr) | |||
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I've taken 6 deer, White Tails and Mule Deer with the Norma 232 Oryx. CZ 550. using RL-15 62-64g one shot kills with little to no meat damage. That is what I like about the 9.3X62, puts them down and no bloodshot meat. | |||
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That is why .35 Remington is doing well. Very effective on deer no bloodshot meat, low recoil. plus ammo available at local Walmart. | |||
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Just what I was gong to say. I just bought 100 rounds of old Norma 232 Vulcan in anticipation of delivery of my new LH Zastava mauser. Anxious to see how it does. For deer, I can't imagine a need for anything heavier. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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