Many years ago, before his death, my grandfather gave me his favorite rifle. A M70 270 built by one of the custom gunsmith's at Winchester for his personal rifle. My grandfather just had to have it. Reluctantly the gunsmith gave it up and Winchester sold it to my grandfather.
I've never really used it much but this year it tickled my fancy. After a few range sessions I realized why my grandfather loved this rifle. It's balanced perfectly, light but not too light and really shoots lights out.
I shot a buck with it this year using his ammo, the white box Super X 130gr Silvertips.
The buck was 158 yds quartering to me. I hit him between his neck and shoulder, he dropped immediately.
I recovered the bullet just under the skin in front of his ham.
The bullet weighed 75grs, lowest expansion was .43 and highest was .510.
I have to say it looks just like a recovered Partition.
I forgot to add that they shot under an inch and chrono'd at 3,000 fps.

Perry

Hard to go wrong with a 270.

My father and grand father were not big hunters but I have a gun from each of them. I can't shoot either one. They are both in no condition to shoot. The only hunting story my father ever told me was of him and his brothers going duck hunting one time with the double barrel 12 I have. He said he was in the boat waiting on ducks he was sure were not going to fly over. He had the gun butt sitting on his lap/crotch area. When he bumped the triggers or somehow the gun went off with the butt in said position. With the result it punched him in the junk with the force of a cannon. Then he fell in the water, and spent the rest of the trip feeling sick to the gut, and didn't enjoy the trip at all.

No wonder he didn't hunt much!!!

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Originally posted by Mauser222:
My father and grand father were not big hunters but I have a gun from each of them. I can't shoot either one. They are both in no condition to shoot. The only hunting story my father ever told me was of him and his brothers going duck hunting one time with the double barrel 12 I have. He said he was in the boat waiting on ducks he was sure were not going to fly over. He had the gun butt sitting on his lap/crotch area. When he bumped the triggers or somehow the gun went off with the butt in said position. With the result it punched him in the junk with the force of a cannon. Then he fell in the water, and spent the rest of the trip feeling sick to the gut, and didn't enjoy the trip at all.

Playing with your gun normally doesn't work out well.

I would bet there was a dare involved.

I don't understand lowest expansion was 43 and highest was .510 with a single shot?? Am I missing something?

I know Silvertips have gone thru many changes over the years, good, bad, and indifferent..I saw them at their best and their worst..The bean counters at work, they would take a perfect bullet, redesign it to a piece of crap, folks complained and another bean counter would give it a try..It has always been a crapshoot..I wouldn't swear to it but it always seemed to be the 270, 30-06, or the 375 H&H was the caliber they had to play with...The 100 gr. 25 cal. Silvertip was always one of the best performing bullets I have ever used in my 250-3000s and 257 Robts, Ihave boxes of those.

Today I guess the Silvertip has given up the ghost and its identity , this new concoction has no silvertip its black and has a platic tip, too bad..I have no idea how it works, looks like a Balistic tip to me.

In the .270 on deer, the old Western Open Point Expanding 130 gr. was a softer bullet and killed deer like a lighting bolt at both close and long range..Wish I could get my hands on some of those old bullets today..Jack O'Connor loved them, thus my original interest in them. I put a lot of stock in Jack O'Connor, he was a good friend.

Roy
The 2 smaller sides of the mushroom is .430, 2 larger sides are .510. Same bullet just a symetrically shaped.

Perry

perry,

Shot two red stags in Scotland with that 270 Silvertip load. Worked perfectly. if you're getting 3000 FPS I think your all set for a deer load.

Mark

Thanks Perry, in my younger years I would have figured that out!!

Mark,
Was that with the new Balistic tip looking Silvertip? I have some ammo loaded with them but have not used them..Mostly because it disgusted me because it just doesn't look like a Silvertip and there is no Griz on the box.

I love to have some older Silvertip bullets in 270 and 30-06 if anyone has any to part with, my 270 dotes on them.