a stupid question about 9.3x62 and 30-06

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04 March 2008, 16:01

tieoneon

a stupid question about 9.3x62 and 30-06

Are these the same calibers?

04 March 2008, 16:16

CARNE

No. The 30cal.and is 7.62 metric and the 9.3 metric is 366 cal. The cases are close but not the same

04 March 2008, 17:21

Peter

Significantly different bullet weights too. Typically the 30.06 will shoot 165 and 180 grain bullets (you can go up to 220 grains and down to 110 grains). The 9.3x 62 will typically shoot 250 to 286 grain bullets at a lower velocity. Still gets the job done though. The 9.3 is a fine caliber!
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04 March 2008, 17:37

mmaggi

Bullet diameters:

.277 inches = 6.82mm (.270 Win, .270 Wby)
.284 = 7mm (.280 Rem, 7mm Rem Mag)
.308 = 7.62mm (.30-06, .308 Win, 300 WM)
.338 = 8.33mm (.338-06, .338 Win Mag)
.366 = 9.3mm (9.3X62, 9.3X64)

04 March 2008, 17:40

steve4102

http://www.accuratepowder.com/loaddata_caliber_rifle_standard.htm

This gives you a good idea as to Bullet dia. Seems as though AA has a 257 typo.

04 March 2008, 18:49

archdlx

some areas of Africa will allow a 9.3 x 62 for dangerous game...as in Cape Buffalo..... would you try that with an '06?

archdlx

mine should be pounding 250 AB's downrange soon!

04 March 2008, 18:55

BFaucett

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04 March 2008, 21:21

grizz007

ahh! a stupid question!

I've asked a few of them myself, my belief is if you don't ask you don't receive. 2 different beasts they are.

05 March 2008, 00:11

Paolo9,5x73

quote:
Originally posted by tieoneon:
Are these the same calibers?

One should compare .35 Whelen and 9,3x62. The Whelen has couple of real disadvantages: lack of factory rifles with virtues of CZ550 and factory loaded ammo with premium slugs of heavier weight. The 250gr Core Lockt just can't morph into premium Norma Oryx slug of 285 grains. I can think of couple Whelen chambered rifles Remington 'Classic' and good ole' Ruger 77 with tang safety. These in minty condition are probably elevated into collector status.
The difference between two cartridges loaded with slugs of medium weight is about 50m/s in favor of the German round.

05 March 2008, 01:40

900 SS

quote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
quote:
Originally posted by tieoneon:
Are these the same calibers?

One should compare .35 Whelen and 9,3x62. The Whelen has couple of real disadvantages: lack of factory rifles with virtues of CZ550 and factory loaded ammo with premium slugs of heavier weight. The 250gr Core Lockt just can't morph into premium Norma Oryx slug of 285 grains. I can think of couple Whelen chambered rifles Remington 'Classic' and good ole' Ruger 77 with tang safety. These in minty condition are probably elevated into collector status.
The difference between two cartridges loaded with slugs of medium weight is about 50m/s in favor of the German round.

Well. The 9,3x62 also has a few disatvantages if you compare it to the 9,3x64,but then the 375 H&H is even better. Not to mention the .416's

05 March 2008, 04:40

Atkinson

I would hunt Buffalo with a 30-06 and a good stout bullet if I had nothing else, but the 9.3x62 is much, much better any way you cut it..

The 9.3x62 is better compared to the .375 H&H. The 9.3x62, in a long 26 or 27 inch tube, can send a 320 gr. Woodleigh at near or at 2400 FPS with a proper handload of RL-15 in a modern bolt action.

05 March 2008, 04:49

Paolo9,5x73

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
I would hunt Buffalo with a 30-06 and a good stout bullet if I had nothing else, but the 9.3x62 is much, much better any way you cut it..

The 9.3x62 is better compared to the .375 H&H. The 9.3x62, in a long 26 or 27 inch tube, can send a 320 gr. Woodleigh at near or at 2400 FPS with a proper handload of RL-15 in a modern bolt action.

My fav ammo supplier carries 350gr Swede ammo that pushes 350gr. Woodleigh 'Weldcore' at 2300fps out of .375H&H hole (probably 24" test barrel).

05 March 2008, 12:36

Will

The 9.3x62 is almost a 375 H&H, and can get bullets up to 320 grs. It is a very efficient csrtridge for its size.

Of course at nominal loadings, it also recoils more like a 375 than a 30-06. They are not really comparable.

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05 March 2008, 18:18

900 SS

quote:

The 9.3x62 is better compared to the .375 H&H. The 9.3x62, in a long 26 or 27 inch tube, can send a 320 gr. Woodleigh at near or at 2400 FPS with a proper handload of RL-15 in a modern bolt action.

I'm not sure what you mean by better, but its surely not powerwise. I think its reasonable to believe that the larger case and larger diameter of the 375 will give some power advantages when everything else is similar. I also think that if you get 2400 fps with 286 gn bullets in the 9,3x62 you should be happy with that.

What I really meant with my first post was that a little bigger or a little smaller doesnt really matter that much. To me its about using what you got to its full potential (the last statement only applies to riflecalibers

05 March 2008, 18:54

kudude

The original question and comments compared the 06 with the 9.3x62, and the 9.3 is clearly the winner although at the expense of more recoil. TNSTAAFL. The 9.3 doesn't have as many beans as a 375HH, but, again, the 375HH has more recoil. As a heavy light rifle or light medium rifle, the 9.3x62 is hard to beat. The good news is that more people are discovering it, and this is leading to more rifles and more bullets being available. Kudude

07 March 2008, 07:44

raybass

quote:
.277 inches = 6.82mm (.270 Win, .270 Wby)
.284 = 7mm (.280 Rem, 7mm Rem Mag)
.308 = 7.62mm (.30-06, .308 Win, 300 WM)
.338 = 8.33mm (.338-06, .338 Win Mag)
.366 = 9.3mm (9.3X62, 9.3X64)

excuse me .358

(358 win.,35whelen)

08 March 2008, 20:56

mmaggi

quote:
Originally posted by raybass:
quote:
.277 inches = 6.82mm (.270 Win, .270 Wby)
.284 = 7mm (.280 Rem, 7mm Rem Mag)
.308 = 7.62mm (.30-06, .308 Win, 300 WM)
.338 = 8.33mm (.338-06, .338 Win Mag)
.366 = 9.3mm (9.3X62, 9.3X64)

excuse me .358 (358 win.,35whelen)

Sorry about that. The .358 comes out roughly to 9mm and the .35 Whelen is one of the many great cartridges for it.

09 March 2008, 04:04

Atkinson

My chronographs sez:

9.3x62:
320 gr, bullet at 2400 FPS

375 H&H:
300 gr. bullet at 2500 FPS

Both loads are mild and accurate in my rifles, if that is not comparible then I will eat my hat..and yes I understand that you can load a 9.3x62 or a .375 hotter, but I won't nor do I need to...Also I undersand that you can load the .375 with 350 gr. Woodlieghs at almost 2400 FPS and that puts the .375 over the top I suppose..

So lets just say for my purposes they are comparible..