I just bought one. I recently bought a CZ 550 in 6.5x55 because they had discontinued the 7x57. But ain't that how it works, buy one thing, then what you were realy looking for comes along. Not that I'm dissappointed about the 6.5, but 7x57 has been on my wish list for a long time too. I don't think it will be too tough a decision to just keep them both. What a problem that you wish you had? nena neenaa neenaa

So, I have seen some discussion about the BRNO sporter mausers in 7x57, and I've seen the prices they bring. Although they are very good rifles, I couldn't see paying that much for one. One shown on this forum, as I remember, was bought just to keep it pritine and original, but not to actually hunt with. That's a concept difficult for me to understand.

Anyway, my question for discussion is why is the CZ 550 in 7x57 not the equal or perhaps better than the older BRNOs?

Incidentally, the factory safety is the one thing I don't like on the 550, so I plan on replacing it with a three-position safety, and take it hunting.

KB

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Anyway, my question for discussion is why is the CZ 550 in 7x57 not the equal or perhaps better than the older BRNOs?KB

At the end of the day either one would have gotten the job done. roger

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Originally posted by bartsche:
At the end of the day either one would have gotten the job done. roger

Come on now Rodger Get into it

You can do better than that

The job can be got done with an old Columbian military 7x57, or a old beat up used Savage bought at a pawn shop for $189.

We're talking about this high brow Euro stuff here.

Regards,
KB

orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,

you could shell out $350 to my buddy Brian and buy a really clean Remington M1934 in 7mm Mauser. complete and un defiled military rifle. Imagine one of those in the rack at your house.

Rich
DRSS
Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost...

urrrrrrr,

That would definately get the job done.

But, of course, I'm probably due for payback and destiny with karma someday, for defiling so many military Mauser actions in my lifetime. Those things aren't safe around me.
KB

The new 550 while a nice action is chunky compared to the little Brno actions. The machining isn't nearly as nice either.

None of this of course changes the effectiveness of the round. But the older package was a much nicer one to fire the cartridge in.

The CZ 550 gets an A+ for function, but a B or a C for form. Cast receiver, plastic followers, screw on sights, etc. Definitely useable, but economic.

The model 21 and 22 series get an A+ for both form and function. If you take one completely apart, right down to removing the sight sleeves from the barrel, you will see a level of craftsmanship that would cost $Ks to duplicate today.

Ya,ll are out to lunch .....Too much time on your hands...

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The model 21 and 22 series get an A+ for both form and function. If you take one completely apart, right down to removing the sight sleeves from the barrel, you will see a level of craftsmanship that would cost $Ks to duplicate today.[/QUOTE]
Ditto on the ZG-47:s

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Originally posted by KurtC:
The CZ 550 gets an A+ for function, but a B or a C for form. Cast receiver, plastic followers, screw on sights, etc. Definitely useable, but economic.

OK, let's see:
Cast Receiver. Humm, I think Ruger uses a cast receiver, however Chuck Hawks in his product review of the CZ 550 says the receiver is forged. I dunno, and I can't find another reference sourse.

The plastic follower can easily be replaced.

The American has no sights, so screw on is not relevant.

That about leaves A+ for function, and economic.

As I look at the profile of the CZ 550, compared to a standard LR '98 action, I see that the 550 seems slimmer.

Oh, yes, the safety. Both Gentry and LaPour make a three-position safety for the 550.

I have looked at the wood on some of those BRNO's, and IMO the 550 wood is better looking.

I don't recall ever hearing anyone complain about the accuracy of the factory barrels on the 550 either.

Humm, now just where is the problem?
KB

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:

Come on now Rodger Get into it

You can do better than that

We're talking about this high brow Euro stuff here. Regards,KB

Oh !! Well I certainly don't qualify! My two 7 x 57s are 19" barrels with scout mounted scopes and sporterized military stocks. Not very high brow I must addmit. Probably could not stand up to the performance from the high brow stuff you're speaking of.

When you speak of a High Brow CZs are these contradictory terms? roger

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Originally posted by bartsche:
When you speak of a High Brow CZs are these contradictory terms? roger

From the prespective of a guy using chopped and defiled military scout rifle, maybe the CZ is high brow.

But since high brow is an attitude, which a rifle can't own, then I'm just messing with you.

Really though, Those scout rifles you mentioned are most likely rather functional and economical as well, and I agree that these are the best features of the CZ.

I fixed up what I call a scout rifle, on a military mauser action in 35 whelen, and mounted a red dot scope on the front ring. I use the military safety. Works really good. There's a lot to be said for a reliable truck gun.

KB

Rodger, talk about high brow, I got myself in a jam recently over a real high brow 7x57. It’s a full custom job on an FN action, with beautiful English walnut, checkering and everything. It has a flaw on the rear bridge where some idiot drilled an extra hole, and it’s not in the right place. I’m sure that can be fixed.

I was at a friends house about a week ago, and he kept forcing some kind of damn good whisky on me, and we got to messing with his computer, and landed on gun broker, signed into my account. Big mistake. That idiot wouldn’t let go of the computer, and I clearly said stop bidding, but of course that’s my story. He snuck in the high bid when I wasn’t looking. Naturally he has a different story. So I bought the damn thing.

Who knows what may happen when I see it. Could be love at first sight, but the plan is to have it fixed, correctly, and then sell it. I got it for far less than it would cost to build, so hopefully I’ll come out ok. I can just see myself babying that beauty around, spending all my time worrying about scratching my rifle.

So, comparatively speaking the CZ ain’t so high brow, but a lot more functional, since I wont worry about it so much.

Of course, still I won't be caribou hunting, hauling around the CZ on the four wheeler or exposing it to salt water on the boat. I've got a Ruger all weather with a hoag stock in 308 for that tough duty. But those Texas and Georgia hogs and deer are in real trouble.

KB

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:
I just bought one. I recently bought a CZ 550 in 6.5x55 because they had discontinued the 7x57. But ain't that how it works, buy one thing, then what you were realy looking for comes along. Not that I'm dissappointed about the 6.5, but 7x57 has been on my wish list for a long time too. I don't think it will be too tough a decision to just keep them both. What a problem that you wish you had? nena neenaa neenaa

So, I have seen some discussion about the BRNO sporter mausers in 7x57, and I've seen the prices they bring. Although they are very good rifles, I couldn't see paying that much for one. One shown on this forum, as I remember, was bought just to keep it pritine and original, but not to actually hunt with. That's a concept difficult for me to understand.

Anyway, my question for discussion is why is the CZ 550 in 7x57 not the equal or perhaps better than the older BRNOs?

Incidentally, the factory safety is the one thing I don't like on the 550, so I plan on replacing it with a three-position safety, and take it hunting.

KB

I bought one of these new in kal 9,3mm. You know, sometimes there is nothing like a NEW rifle. I like to break them in!
At 499US plus tax it's a remarkable value.

Kabluewy: I am the proud owner of a CZ 550 American in 7x57mm. My brother and a friend of his own the CZ 550 FS in 7x57mm. My rifle is awesome on the range and in the field with my handloads. Have used it for everything from elk to coyotes. The caliber is fantastic and the rifle is beauty. If you like the rifle then that is all that counts, period. I mounted a 4x12x40 VariX-1 with Talley rings on mine. Mine seems to like the 160 grain bullets the best and H414 powder the most. Congrats on the rifle and caliber choice and the luck of the Irish for finding one. Tom Purdom

You would be hard pressed to convience me that a better gun was ever produced than the Brno M-21 and 22 as to workmanship, accuracy or beauty..

By comparison to the Brno 21 and 22, the CZ-550 is junk, but that said the CZ is a working capable gun that in the end will accomplish the same thing that any 7x57 will, and at todays value it will save you about $1000 on your initial investment.

I also believe that H414 is the ONLY powder for the 7x57 and my chronograph backs that up, but you will need to load beyond what most 7x57 books recommend as max because most of them underload the 7x57 because of the number of M-95 and 96 Mausers out there..

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the CZ-550 is junk

Kabluewy,

If you want to get rid of that "trash" you can send it my way.

As they say, one man's trash is another's treasure. I think I'll keep the CZ. Many years ago, I used to go into a gunshop in Buckhead (Atlanta GA) and look at all the new FNs he had on the shelf. I'm sure he had to wipe the drool off the 7x57 when I left. Never could get the money together to buy one. My x-wife saw to that.

Maybe this CZ will be a good replacment.

KB

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Originally posted by Atkinson:

By comparison to the Brno 21 and 22, the CZ-550 is junk, but that said the CZ is a working capable gun that in the end will accomplish the same thing that any 7x57 will, and at todays value it will save you about $1000 on your initial investment...

Not all bad for a JUNKER, I'd say.

25-35 Mod. 94???? oh my! Just rubbing the fur a little the wrong way. roger

I am with Rem721 and KurtC. I know they are a perfectly functional rifle, but other than the interesting cartridges that they chamber the CZs rifles for, I find them clunky and unrefined, especially the varmint rigs with the extended magazines. Lou

CZ550 American models in 7X57 are no longer imported and will start brining a premium price tag in the near future.

I, too, have one. It is under minute of angle accurate, finish is superb, and it's light weight. When I go back to RSA to finish my plains game hunting, I'll be taking my CZ 7X57.