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From what I get from the different posts is the action of the Savage is still as a rule very accurate/ Except for mine  BUT the plastic stock in most people's opinion is a Flimsy POS for the most part.There was some suggestions to go out and get a laminated wood stock and this would be better than a good plastic one even if the plastic stock was stiffer? At the price of 180$ this week for the Savage Axis XP rifles plus Bushnell scope with the 100$ back are you better buying this cheap rifle and buy a new Boyd's stock and throw the stock and scope in the junk bin? Where my Trophy Hunter model 11/111 was 450$ with Nikon scope and the difference was the accutriger and 200$+ difference is there that much difference in the Axis trigger vs the accutrigger. | ||
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 Personally I feel at this point it's a crap shoot. A new stock is no guarantee that your repeat ability is going to improve.Many of the Savage rifles I own and have owned were moa out of the box .that's with the Tupper ware stocks .You might try shimming ( pressure ) between the barrel and the end of the stock. roger  Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Dump bad guns, keep the good ones..Making a gun shoot accurate is iffy at best, it can happen, but not always.. A new gun should tell you right away if it at least "wants to shoot", work on that one, it can also tell you it ain't interested in shooting well, dump that one on your local pawn dealer.  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I have bedded all my savage plastic stocks. I had to reinforce the barrel channel with glass bedding and steel rods made from stiff coat hangers. Other wise when I used bipods with them they would bend and the barrels would touch the sides of the channel causing all kinds of inaccuracy. | |||
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The AXIS and the 11/111 are 2 entirely different rifles. For one thing, there is no true "short action" in the AXIS. It is merely a long action with a short magazine. The differences go far deeper than that. Here are some schematics of the 2. 1st the AXIS; https://www.gunpartscorp.com/g...gfld/rifles-sav/axis Now the Model 11; https://www.gunpartscorp.com/g...es-sav/11-series/11f GOOGLE HOTLINK FIX FOR BLOCKED PHOTOBUCKET IMAGES https://chrome.google.com/webs...inkfix=1516144253810 | |||
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Folks have been trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear for ions, it just ain't gonna work. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flys like a duck, and shits like a duck its probably a duck and always will be. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Savage bolt actions are one of the most consistent out of the box mass produced rifles in terms of accuracy. Compared to Remington, I would place my bets on Savage. There's a reason that Savage is the #1 producer of bolt action rifles. GOOGLE HOTLINK FIX FOR BLOCKED PHOTOBUCKET IMAGES https://chrome.google.com/webs...inkfix=1516144253810 | |||
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I'd take the 11/111 any day over the Axis rifle. The 11/111 is just a better platform to work with, especially when you go looking for parts to upgrade. The Boyd's stock will always be more rigid than the injection molded stocks Savage puts on most of their rifles. What have you tried with your rifle to make it shot better? | |||
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My take! It's like going to Walmart. I hate it but sometime you just have to. I usually tell the guys that want me to work on thiers, bring it over after dark and use the back door and don't park you Dodge pickup on the street.  Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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Yeah I could see where that Dodge pickup makes your Ford/Chevy look bad.  GOOGLE HOTLINK FIX FOR BLOCKED PHOTOBUCKET IMAGES https://chrome.google.com/webs...inkfix=1516144253810 | |||
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Hey, I drive a Dodge 2500 Cummins... The only Savage rifles I own are 99s. "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..." Hosea 8:7 | |||
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Please, No offense meant, kind of tongue in cheek, and to each his own Jim Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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So they are the most accurate out of the box, but one poster sez ya have to glass bed it with coat hangers, and yours won't shoot, Isn't that contradictory... All kidding aside, I would tend to replace the stock with a better grade of plastic or perhaps a laminate.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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"Are one of the most accurate" and "are the most accurate" don't mean the same thing. And one can find a turd with any make or manufacturer. As far as the "plastic stock"? How many moderately priced rifles with OEM "synthetic stocks" aren't in the same category as the Savages? GOOGLE HOTLINK FIX FOR BLOCKED PHOTOBUCKET IMAGES https://chrome.google.com/webs...inkfix=1516144253810 | |||
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Rebarrel to 338 Federal, keep Boyd s, trash Bushnell and buy a Sightron S1 HHR, Natural glass tint. Close to a Zeiss in tint. | |||
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Scope problems: tint Bushnell : to orange Swarovski and Nightforce : to red Leupold : to blue Zeiss I can't afford, that leaves Sightron : "natural glass tint" No problem | |||
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I actually just bought bought a Boyds stock fore may Savage Lightweight about a week ago. It shot great with the cheap plastic stock but it looked like crap.  | |||
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I could take that. I have a pos that looks like a cheap stock and the rifle does not shoot accurately either plus the bedding screws keep working lose. Nice looking stock | |||
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Try to make sure you torque your action screws to 30-35 inch pounds, if your action screws are loose you won't have an accurate rifle. | |||
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No offense taken... Equally tongue in cheek response! "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..." Hosea 8:7 | |||
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 If your Stevens or Savage performs in the field as well as you want it to, You can also drive an Iso-Teranka pickup with no justified criticism form the peanut gallery. I think.  roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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My only complaint with a Savage or Stevens is poor dust repellation. Dust in the trigger etc. | |||
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It's a pretty open trigger, dust isn't going to bother the Savage trigger at all.. I'd be more worried about dust affecting a Remington trigger than a Savage. | |||
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Sorry not dust, meant sand. Stevens 200 bad for sand. | |||
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Doesn't matter the environment the Savage/Stevens trigger will handle being sandy, dusty, muddy, or frozen better than an enclosed style trigger like a Remington uses. | |||
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Anyone got the pxs of how they stiffened the stock on their pos Savage stock? | |||
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I don't have pictures but the explanation is simple: I would foam fill the cavities in the fore end with a spray can of expanding foam, trim any high spots of foam and then full length glass bed it (free float). This will make the stock far more rigid and not add much weight. | |||
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I use a Marlin XS7, one son my old Remington 700 SPS and another son a Weatherby Vanguard, the sons rifles fitted with suppressors and bipods, my Marlin I just shoot over a pack, log or off my knees depending on the situation. All rifles in 7mm-08, all three original plastic stocks free floated by me with plenty out of the barrel channel, enough to run a oily rag down. All rifles shoot accurate, couple of weeks back from a 7 day Tahr hunt in the middle of our Alps (see Tahr 2018 report under Australia and NZ Hunting) and all rifles scored. Just free float but not a pansy free float, allow enough gap in the channel to tip out debris and run an oily down the underside of the barrel. Nothing wrong with the lightweight but tough factory stocks and cheap to replace with same if you do break one. Go get em. | |||
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Decided to keep the pos because it was shooting 1" groups WITH the Bag close to the the front screw. I still feel for a non custom stock it shoots well and I found the articles below on how to fix what I consider the main problem the flimsy forearm which moves all around. Being a Dentist I am used to working and rigging with a lot of nothing to get a result.  Below is the fix for an Axis but both stocks are pos's. http://www.savageshooters.com/...nforcement-Made-Easy This guy uses two pieces of 3/16 pr 1/4 of all thread in the epoxy. Another guy used fiberglass or aluminum arrows in the bottom. http://www.savageshooters.com/...e-Factory-Axis-Stock The second one uses and arrow in the fore arm but drills the grip and reinforces the grip and some of the back compartment which seems to be the other weak point for the stock. Looking I think this will work but feel you will need to bed 2-3 inches in front of the tang to tie it all together. The other question is what do you fill the hollow stock with when you pull the pad off the back? Seen people using water based rock, to silicone to the Expanding foam. Opinions? There still some weak spots inside the cut out but with a stiff dependable fore arm I feel this will make a pretty good little gun with the forearm tied back into the area of the tang. If not there is always Boyds or such. SS thanks for the report on the foam. | |||
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Don't get me wrong, I love Savage and own more than a few, but they must have 99F, EG or G, for instance on the front ring or barrel. That's when the built them right. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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