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Wondering how many eights exist out there.

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[ 05-26-2002, 23:12: Message edited by: Mauserkid ]
 
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Where's the 8mm Remington? Steyr's Mannlicher 8X56R
 
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.316 Diameter bullet
32 extra long
32 extra short
32 short
32 long
8x48R Sauer
8x51 Mauser / 8x51RJ Mauser
8.15x46R

.317 Diameter bullet
32 long, CF
32 Ballard extra long
320 revolver
7.5 Swiss Army

.318 Diameter bullet
8x57R
8x64J / 8x65RJ Brenneke
8x75 / 8x75R
8x60 / 8x60R
8x42R M/88
8x71 Peterlongo
8x57 (J) Mauser

.320 Diameter bullet
8mm Rast Gasser
32-40 Ballard
8mm Nambu
32 WSL
32 REM

.321 diameter bullet
32 Win Spl
8x50R Siamese
8x52 Siamese

.322 Diameter bullet
8x58R Sauer
8mm Danish Krag

.323 Diameter bullet
8mm Rem Mag
8mm Mauser
32 Ideal
8x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer
8mm Lebel
8x64S / 8x54RS Brenneke
8mm Lebel Revolver
8x60S / 8x60RS Mauser
8x57JS / 8x57RJS Mauser
8x54 Krag Jorgensen
8mm-06
8mm Austrian
7.92 Kurz
7.9x57JS (8mm Mauser JS)
8x68S RWS
8mm JDJ
8x63 Swedish

.324 Diameter bullet
310 Cadet
8x72R Sauer

.325 Diameter bullet
7.5 Nagant (Swedish)

.326 Diameter bullet
8x60R Guedes M/85
8x59 Breda

.329 Diameter bullet
8mm Roth Styer
8mm Murata
8mm Hungarian M89

List from COTW, not including any wildcats

[ 05-28-2002, 20:12: Message edited by: Tailgunner ]
 
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I did not know the 32 Winchester Spl. was an 8 mm. thanks.
 
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The origional 8mm mauser (and a several others) used a .318 bullet, the most common 8mm's (including the later 8mm mauser) use a .323 bullet, the 8x50R Austrian/Hungrian and the 8x56R A/H use a .329 bullet.
As the 32Win Spl uses a .321 bullet (as do both of the Siamese 8mm's) I included it in this listing.
CTOW lists named 8mm cartridges with bullets from .316 to .329

[ 05-28-2002, 20:24: Message edited by: Tailgunner ]
 
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Hit by the wildcat bug I developed my own huckleberry, the 8MM MAZON.
It is based on the 9,3x64 Brenneke case necked down to 8mmS or .323".
It has the capacity of the 2.5" magnums, does not carry a belt, and fits and feeds perfectly in the 1909 Mauser Argentino action which I used, altogether with a Lothar Walther barrel.
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Tailgunner, you missed some chamberings with "S" added. Fine list, though.

8x68S

Only in "S" bore.
Bigger case capacity than 9.3x64 or belted H & H Magnum case ( of same lenght ).
No belt.
Smooooth feeding.
Fits in standard Mauser, as it was designed for that system.

Lots of Military 8�s in rimmed or rimless form.
A popular caliber.

Have fun! Hermann
 
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Ahunter, where does one find a pre made magazine box long enough for the 68s? I think it is over by, I forget how much, think it was at least .30 if not more, beyond the out side my box.

Later,, Mauserkid...
 
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Beg to differ on the 8x68. That case is right at 2.7" long, according to my references. While it COULD be fitted into a 3.3" magazine box, this would require even deeper seating than the shorter .300 Winchester (which is much more versitile in the full length box). I wouldn't be comfortable with an 8x68 in less than a 3.5 to 3.6" box.
 
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Originally posted by Tailgunner:
The original 8mm mauser (and a several others) used a .318 bullet, the most common 8mm's (including the later 8mm mauser) use a .323 bullet, the 8x50R Austrian/Hungrian and the 8x56R A/H use a .329 bullet.

Allow me to be nitpicky: the 8 x 50 R Austrian always used a .323 bullet, to my knowledge; it relied on obturation fit to conform to the bore.

The 8 x 50 R Lebel only used a .323" bullet in its very rare first variant, the round-nosed Balle M (employed up to 1898). The later Balle D and the most common Balle N from 1932 had larger diameters (Balle N had 8,32 mms, don't know about Balle D right now, maybe 8,28 or 8,30).

Le me add two machine gun cartridges:
8 x 57 R Dutch (scherpe patroon No. 23)
8 x 61 Norvegian

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I found an 8m Gibbs on the web today, looks like a real performer. Any one know who might have dies for this one?

Later Mauserkid
 
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I found an 8m Gibbs on the web today, looks like a real performer. Any one know who might have dies for this one?

Later Mauserkid

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Thanks 1200,

Later Mauserkid
 
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The 8x50R Austrian may be reloaded with standard .323 bullets. Regrettably most of those sleek 95 carbines were redone to 8x56R Hungarian, which uses .329 bullets. There were some privately converted to 8x57 IRS, I would like to have one!

The 6.5x68 and the 8x68S were designed for the standard Mauser action from 1935 to 40. So they should fit in any, perhaps with some filing on the rear of the mag box.

FWIW, Hermann
 
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I am thinking the last time I got the total over all length of the 68s, it was longer than the magwell of my standard Mausers. I think the 68s protruded beyond by I want to say at least .030 or more. At least on my VZ's an Turks. So, if there is a mag well out there longer, could some one let me know what and were to get one?

Thanks Mauserkid...
 
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Mauserkid, the men to talk to are JBelk or Ray Atkinson. There are enough knowledgeable people there, but these should know.

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A couple other 8mm's are the 8mm Hollis which is a 308 Norma necked up to 323 and the 8mm PMM (poor mans magnum)which is the 338 Win necked down. Both of these are comparable to the 8x68 and very close to the 8mm Rem
 
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Originally posted by Mauserkid:
Wondering how many eights exist out there.

http://www.lanset.com/4x4guru/8mm%20Mauser.htm
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The 8x68S was made for standard mauser 98. it is the biggest caliber for this system and an excellent choice for long range hunting areas.
 
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