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Heres the choices.
Rem TI, Tikka T3 ,Sako Finnlight,or Browning TI

It will be chambered in .270WSM for use on a 10 day Backpack Sheep Hunt.

Custom or Customized is NOT an option. Neither is a Kimber, as the Warranty service here in Canada for them is dismal at best.

Please give your thoughts, and/or experiences with any of the above, and why you might pick one over the other.

Thanx.


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How about this, all the rifles will work just fine. Just try them all out in the store and see which one feels better in your hands. The one that feels best to you is what you should go with.
 
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You should handle all of them and pick the one that that feels/fits you the best.

I am biased towards the Rem Ti. As it fits me the best and feels good. I have handled the other three, but prefer the Rem Ti.

Could be all the years of carying 700's around, but that is my preference.
 
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I have a Finnlight 270 WSM that shoots 140 Acccubonds into a tiny little hole at 100 yards. It will shoot a 3 shot group without the group opening up. It feels good and the clip is a nice feature. I also have a 300WSM Finnlight and it is just as accurate. Two friends have Remington titanium and both are cranky shooters. No experience with the others. Good luck!!!
 
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I'd go with the tikka. They shoot great, and with the money you'll save versus the other options you can buy a great scope to top it with and a ton of ammo.


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Get a Browning!


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The Sako Finnlight would be my choice out of that lot without doubt.

Sako are excellent Quality and shoot very well from the box, they come with one of the best factory triggers avaliable. Excellent quality, you cannot go wrong with a Sako.
 
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steyr prohunter.
if you have to ask, you havent shot one.
 
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steyr prohunter.
if you have to ask, you havent shot one.


Doesnt come in .270WSM!!!!


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I appreciate all the comments....but no one is stating why they would pick one over the other.


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I have handled a M-700 Ti in 7-08 and I would have bought it except for the $1500 price tag.

I have not tried the Tikka T3 but a buddy that I know swears they are the most accurate out-of-the-box rifle that he has ever shot. Usually he likes to mess around with bedding, handloading and tinkering to find out how to get the rifle to shoot, but with the Tikka he is deprived of that; it's not required.
He just has to do the handloading/shooting part.

I can't comment on the others; no experience or info from others that I could pass along.
 
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I appreciate all the comments....but no one is stating why they would pick one over the other.


I think with all the guns you listed they are about the same. Blondes, brunettes redheads.
Chocolate, vanilla, mint chip. None of the above are better, just a different flavor.

Try them all and you need decide which one you like the best.

I personally wouldn't choose any the ones you listed, but out of your list I would go with the Rem Ti. That is the the one that fits me the best and handles the best to ME. I have carried Model 700's for close to 30 years and they have yet to let me down. You may have different tastes.

If I could choose, I would go with a lightweight non-Ti Remington.

I don't like the way the Ti's actions feel. And I do not like super lightweight guns.
But I like the Ti's better than the others listed. And yes I have handled all of them.
 
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This is a hard question to answer . I believe the first person to post said it best( taylorce1 ). See which one suits YOU BEST as they will all work just fine .

I own almost every brand of rifle there is , I could no more pick a favorite than jumping too the moon . Although I do favor some over others .

Out of the choices you've listed I would prefer a Tikka or Browning I like the weight style dependability and accuracy they bring !.

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First off, I'm a confessed SAKO nut. Having said that, here's why the SAKO. 60 degree bolt, great feature on a hunting rig. Detachable box magazine, just a better mousetrap IMO. Superior barrel to all but maybe the Tikka. MOA or better guarantee. Stock handles recoil better than the tikka or the rem IME, I've shot them all.
Integral scope dovetails are always accurate, and just a great system. Trigger is easily user adjustable, and are simply darn good triggers.

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id rather have a 90degree lift over a 60. you need more primeray extraction IMO.

Go the Remington TI!
 
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steyr SBS prohunter uses a sfae bolt system that is similar to the way an M16 bolt locks into the BBL extension. this removes most stress on the reciver. even though the prohunter is steel the scout is aluminum reciver. the prohunter is proofed to well over 120,000 pounds.
the Steyr trigger is adjustable for weight, creep and overtravel and can be adjusted down to 1.25 pounds and still be 100% safe.
Steyr BBl's are cold hammer forged and fully free floated all the way to the reciver.
the detatchable magazine is a 2 position locking mag that allows the mag to be lowered to position one, retained inside the rifle and no be allowed to feed from the mag. this allows the user to keep the mag with the rifle and allows single feeding rounds manually.
the 3 position roller tang safety has bolt lock/ safe, safe and fire positions.
the stock is adjustable for LOP via included spacers.
The included sling swivels are of the Flush detatchable style.
the steyr uses easy to find browning A-bolt bases.
and finally the steyr is probably one of the if not THE most accurate production rifles avail today.
i have several variants that will all shoot MOA at 200 yards with factory ammo.
check the link below showing the rifle avail in the 270 WSM.
steyr
 
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Rifles O.K. but bad choice of caliber in my opinion. 270 o.k. for deer but would not go to the woods with one.
 
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Go with the Remington. The other 3 for me are eliminated because of being clip fed. This is just me personnaly but I do not like clip fed rifles for hunting. In the field, remove all possibility of failure. I lost it. OOPS I hit the button. Especially when I am on a once in a lifetime hunt. What do you consider acceptable risk in the field?


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Go with the Remington. The other 3 for me are eliminated because of being clip fed. This is just me personnaly but I do not like clip fed rifles for hunting. In the field, remove all possibility of failure. I lost it. OOPS I hit the button. Especially when I am on a once in a lifetime hunt. What do you consider acceptable risk in the field?



thats why steyrs magazine is 2 position.
most people lose the magazine when they remove it to make it safe/ unload the rifle. they come of a morning hunt, they put it in a pocket and forget it there for the warmer evening hunt.

furthermore steyrs magazine is not a single button release. it has buttons on both sides that must be pushed together simutaniously to remove the magazine or lower it.

 
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Good replies guys.

KSTEPHENS, thanx for the info on the Steyrs, but the Rifle has to (for reasons we wont get into here) be one of the above mentioned, & it has to be a .270WSM.

Thanx guys.


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Rifles O.K. but bad choice of caliber in my opinion. 270 o.k. for deer but would not go to the woods with one.

Why do you say this? I don't shoot the .270 WSM but my .270 Win doesn't have any problems bringing home game including elk. I think the .270 would be a fine caliber for any kind of sheep hunting but again that is my opinion, I just wanted to hear yours. Why do you thing the .270 WSM is a bad choice, what is your experience that turned you off to the caliber?

cmfic1 good luck with your decision I'm sure whatever rifle you choose it will be right for you. 10 day backpack sheep hunt sounds like a lot of fun but hard work, and I hope it is a successful one for you. Good Luck!
 
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Originally posted by ztreh:270 o.k. for deer but would not go to the woods with one.


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I like the Tikkas. I have 3 of them from 308 to 338 and a 300 WSM in between. All are extremely accurate. The Steyr Prohubnter has a very heavy bolt lift to me which makes a second shot difficult. It is a very accurate rifle just hard to get off the second shot.


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cmfic1, just for info purposes, I have been hunting with detachable box mags for over 35 years, and have never lost one. Now maybe that's just me. But I do always have 2 with me, one in gun, one in pack or 6th pocket on pants.

As an aside, I think most military weapons are clip/detachable mag fed, and that situation is typically a fair bit more serious to have a non-single shot weapon than hunting game, and that is what you have if you lose your clip--a single shot.......
 
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My brother purchased a Tikka in 270 WSM last year and is very pleased with it. He was a Remington only guy but not any longer.

He has killed whitetails, and elk with the rifle.

I have never owned a Tikka but I would not hesistate to buy one. The action is so silky smooth and they have a great reputation for accuracy and value. You rarely see any used Tikkas at the gunshops or gun shows. To me that speaks volumes.
 
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Go with the Remington. The other 3 for me are eliminated because of being clip fed. This is just me personnaly but I do not like clip fed rifles for hunting. In the field, remove all possibility of failure. I lost it. OOPS I hit the button. Especially when I am on a once in a lifetime hunt. What do you consider acceptable risk in the field?


I agree with that statement 200%.

I also prefer blind magazines ie ADL's, less stuff to deal with when hunting.
 
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I used my Tikka T3 on my mule deer hunt,300win, very light and easy to carry, it is a shooter I shot all summer with it and could always maintain sub MOA at 300 yds. For the money I think they are a great rifle, not a fancy gun but a real tool, that is what I wanted!!
 
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Good replies guys.

KSTEPHENS, thanx for the info on the Steyrs, but the Rifle has to (for reasons we wont get into here) be one of the above mentioned, & it has to be a .270WSM.

Thanx guys.



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my 2cents
sako-finlite
tikka t-3
browning
remington
ive got too say styers are dam fine shooters
shot friends rifles,and witnessed very tight groups at the range,one 270 with my reloads shoot 5 rounds into 3/4 inch group at 200 yards,that was from a sporter barrel.
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Originally posted by cmfic1:
Good replies guys.

KSTEPHENS, thanx for the info on the Steyrs, but the Rifle has to (for reasons we wont get into here) be one of the above mentioned, & it has to be a .270WSM.

Thanx guys.



odd.
who sets the bar for you?


No one sets the bar for me!

I have a couple differenr Rifles that would work for this hunt, both built by Mark Bansner (field ready, one is 6lbs. the other 7).

This Rifle is not for me. Its for a guy I know who is doing this hunt, with this Rifle for a magazine article.

I asked because other than the Sako & Rem (non-Ti models), I have limited to no experience with any of the others.


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Get a Sako 85 Finnlite.

The model 85 has a new magazine release that eliminates worry about accidental magazine release.
It is all stainless including the Trigger parts.
My 85 270 WSM has the best trigger I've ever had on a hunting rifle. It is far superior to the trigger on my 4 Steyr's.
The Finnlite feeds far smoother than the Steyr's. I do prefer the safety on the Steyr's.
Sako's overall quality is quite a bit higher than Remington. Tikka is Sako's bargain model. Tikka's are great guns for the money, Sako's are great guns.
I have 2 Finnlites. Both shoot pretty good:

My 300WSM shoots groups like this a 200yds regularly:



My 270 Win shoots bugholes at 100yds sometimes at 200yds and even though I missed a slight Wind shift it shot this group at 300yds:



All Sako 75's and 85's have to shoot a 5 shot MOA group at 100yds, the Tikka's do the same but 3 Shots.

Within what you've mentioned are your parameters I think the Sako 85 Finnlite is a no-brainer choice, it's a lot better rifle IMHO than the Remington, and Browning and a upgrade over the Tikka. I've owned and shot all of them to form this opinion......................DJ


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i can buy 2 steyrs for the price of one sako 85.
is the sako tiwce the rifle?
i cant see how it could be.
 
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i can buy 2 steyrs for the price of one sako 85.
is the sako tiwce the rifle?
i cant see how it could be.


A Sako Finnlite is for the guy who's carrying 1 rifle on an important hunt and wants the best................................DJ


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