All,

shot my M700 Classic in .35 Whelen for the first time over the weekend (I believe I bought it from someone here in Classifieds, about 3-4 years ago...)

I started with Remington 200's, within 3 shots I was at 2" high at 100.. then went to 225 TBBC's from Federal, last 3 shots went into 1"

As I've posted previously, I'm not nearly the gun/shooting krank that most of you are, I usually sight in then hunt. The reason for this post is that I only fired a total of about 12 rounds, all within about 45 minutes (with not much barrel cooling time), and had 1 1/4" groups with the 200's and then the above final group with the 225's...

Is this typical of the Whelens?? what a cool round, not much recoil either...

Regards,
Craig Nolan

Craig, from what I see on here and from mine I would say yes it is. Speaking of shooting I took mine the other day, I was trying some 250 gr Hornadys and Re-15 checking the groups and working towards a max load. from 55 grs to 59(previously had worked up to 55 grs.) the largest group was 1 1/8" and the smallest was just a little over 1/2". I have the cdl version from remington. People can say what they want about the 338 win mag and the 9.3X62, me I think I'm just as well off with the whelen. Its a power house with not so much recoil. If ya want a bigger gun get a 375 H&H or 375 ruger.

Did you have any pressure at 59 gr? I am currently using 61 grains of H4350 in my ruger with no pressure problems w/250 a frames and partitions. I had earlier loaded up to 60 gr of the RL 15 with no signs of pressure but it did not group as well as the H4350 with the heavier bullets.

No signs so far. Is 4350 a powder to use in the whelen? I've never seen anything on it.

The only cartridge based on the '06 case that I own that was finicky was the 25-06 Rem. The 30-06, 338-06AI, and 35 Whelen were quick to get accurate hunting loads.

Although I must say that my 35 Whelen Rem 7600, which is magna-ported kicks rather smartly. It thumps at both ends. I would never classify it as, "not much recoil..." especially with 250gr bullets!

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Originally posted by raybass:
No signs so far. Is 4350 a powder to use in the whelen? I've never seen anything on it.

Usually 4350 is a bit too slow and 4064, 4320, 4895 or Rel 15 work better.

H-380 works great in my 35 Whelen

raybass, I use the H4350 in both the 35 Whelen and 338-06 with bullets 225< and RL 15 with bullets 225>. A gentleman at the range suggested the H4350 w/heavier bullets as I was having difficulties w/RL15. I gave it a try and groups tightened up a whole lot. Don't know the speed however.

My groups were ok, but that is interesting. I may try it after I run the RE-15 loads over a chrony. Thanks fellas.

I have 2 Whelens, a Rem. 700 1-16" barrel and a
custom Mauser with a 1-12 Douglas barrel and they both like RL-15 and IMR 4064. IMHO the Rem.
1-16 barrel stabilizes the 250 Speers, Noslers
and the 250 Hornadys fine. I save my 275-300
grain bullets for the 1-12 Douglas. Try 56 gr.
4064 with 200-225-250 gr. bullets. Good accuracy
but not top velocity. I get better velocity from RL-15. I've got a 1-14 Whelen barrel for
a Mauser. I'm sure it will behave similarly.

My 700 Clssic Whelen seems to shoot just about everything I've put through it pretty well, from Speer 158gr JHP pistol bullet fire-forming loads to 200gr Rem. factory, to 225gr NBT deer hunting loads.

I started out with RL-15 when working up the 225 NBT loads and had such good results accuracy-wise with it using a variety of primers that I never tried another powder.

I did end up trying several different magnum primers to boost velocities, settling on the Remington 9 1/2M primer, but accuracy was darn good with all of them.

I've got some 250gr Nosler Partition loads ready to go shoot but haven't made the opportunity yet, so no data there. I've also got 2 boxes of Federal Premium 225gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet factory loads (now discontinued, I believe) which should be an interesting comparison.

I like the Whelen. -WSJ

WSJ, Federal has put the 225 TBBC ammo back into production. They got more pushback on the discontinuace than any other product.

Craig:

I have the same rifle. I have had extraordinary luck with plain old 250 grain Speer spitzers. In my rifle with RL15 they shoot into tiny little groups and will sail through an elk from almost any angle.

I have picked up some 225 TSX bullets and I intend to give them a try here in the near future.

Dave

I had a classic that was a sub 1" rifle with almost things especially sierra 225's gave it to my best friend when I bought a KS, all I have tried with it is the 225 sierra's but they are 3/4" 3 shoters. I have used h4350, imr4320 & rl 15. I like RL15 best. The 225 sierra is a great deer & hog bullet but I have never had a exit wound, so I'd want a partation for something bigger..

I picked up some Speer 250 gr Grand Slams today to try in my 35. Hopefully they'll shoot as good or better than the Hornadys. They were on sale! If they do I'll go pick up the rest of them.

I hunted my first two seasons with my Uncles Savage 110 in 3006 and couldn’t wait to buy my own first rifle. I read so many reviews on cartridges and researched rifles never ending! When I read that Remington was coming out with the 35Whelen in 700 Classic after research I knew that was cartridge and rifle I wanted! I waited patiently while on order, picking it up a day after it arrived 9/3/88 and paid $388.95 in NY.
I installed a Leupold 3.5 – 10 Vari-x-3 on it and got less than 1 MOA @ 100yds two shots always laying down on each other out of every three shot group with the Factory 250 RN.
The Savage 110 became a blur. Unfortunately I shot the gun out after too many rounds so I bought two more rifles a 7600 and another Classic; I still have the second Classic.

This is the first group I tried of the Remington 250gr. factory load at 100yds about 3 years ago.
The rifle is an old Mauser action with a Remington take off barrel and a Hogue stock, nothing special. Some people say that the slow twist of the Remington barrel is too slow to stablize the bullet, but I'll take this any day. I worked up a load last year of RL-15 and the Barnes TSX 225gr. and I am getting 1" groups at an average of 2802fps. That's 100fps more than I get with the same load and any other bullet I've tried.