Thanks for all the replys!

Guess the best bet is to follow the adive of those who suggested I need to just get out and shoot a variety and let the rifle decide!

Although I think I'll wait till things warm up a little it hasn't been much above freezing here for several weeks. And as much as I enjoy a day at the range, it's just no fun at these temps. Guess I'll have to scrounge up some 270 dies and components and start rolling.

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Originally posted by AI22-250:
The 130grain bullet was made for the .270. They are like bread and butter.

By the way 4831 was also Made for the 270win.

IMR 4831?

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Originally posted by AI22-250:
The 130grain bullet was made for the .270. They are like bread and butter.... I've shot lighter and heavier. Nothing gives the trajectory, velocity, impact that the 130 gives. If you don't believe me, look at your reloading charts, out past several hundred yards the 130's overtake the 150's in "foot-pounds" of energy, time of flight, etc., which means it's acually less bothered by the wind.

For many years now I've reloaded most brands and type of bullets, killed most big game in the west and I've tried many of the newer brands, to it's credit the old Sierra Boat-tail spitzer has taken more than thirty head of Mule deer and several Elk.

I tried the Barnes 140gr on an Elk hunt one year. What a Joke. At a 150yrds a .277 cal hole in and a .30 cal hole out, broadside thru the heart and one lung. The Elk ran 200 yards before stopping.... Never again...... By the way 4831 was also Made for the 270win.

Just My Thoughts on the 270win, make up your own mind though.....

I find A122-250;'s post really interesting. I have always used 150 grain Nosler Partition @ 2800 fps because I was in big bear country. I no longer have to worry about bears so I want to go down to 130 now because I have always suspected it is more efficient . I posted a question elsewhere about 130 grain Rem Bulk Silvertip bullets. I bought 500 of them, but I don't know what kind of bullet construction they are. Are they frangible, or will they go all the way through a deer? If you hit a black bear will they penetrate, or blow up on the outside? Anybody know?

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Originally posted by AI22-250:
By the way 4831 was also Made for the 270win.

IMR 4831?

H-4831 works extremely well for the 270,and IMR 4831 also works very well, but neither was MADE initially for the .270. The original 4831 sold by Bruce Hodgdon was war surplus powder pulled out of 20m/m AA shells, which is what is was made for by Dupont....


I used 130 gr. Hornady spire points for deer for many, many years, with total success, but got a lot of bloodshot meat too. So, I switched to 150 gr. NPs to see if I got less bloodshot. I did; that worked.

Now I've switched back to the 130 Hornady's just out of habit...and the fact that I don't need to pay for a premium bullet for deer. Dead is dead, and the Hornady is a fine killer of deer, as would be a cup'n core Speer, Sierra, Remington, Federal, or Winchester.

I would choose the 140gr bullet for deer hunting
in my 270 Win. They are fast enought.

My guess is that you can see the 130 grain is the standard. There is a reason it is, it works.

In a standard cup and core bullet, the 130,140, & 150 will all work. You almost have to try a few out to decide which is your favorite, but with anything like a well placed shot they will all take deer very well. The 130's will produce more bloodshot meat than the other two and with a broadside shot might produce a slightly faster kill, the 150's will penetrate a little farther, and the 140's are a middle of the road compromise, but they all kill large deer very well. For deer I would avoid the bonded-core bullets though.

.270 win + 130 grain = peanut butter and jelly mmm mmm good.

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What bullet weight in 270 for whitetail

130

In the UK for use in woodands some find FACTORY loaded 130 grain just too fast. At close range they destroy just too much meat.

So many here load a 140 grain - such as Hornady's Interlock - at about 2,800fps and never have complaints.

IMHO the 270 Winchester would haver been better with that extra ten grains AND two hundred feet LESS velocity! Say 2,750 to 2,850fps maximum.

A sort of "super" 7 x 57 before the 280 Remington arrived.

3,100fps with any bullet at any animal you want to eat at less than fifty yards range is just that little bit too quick IMHO.

Tom, there's certainly no wrong choice you can make here (too bad everything in life's not like that!).

One of the things I like most about the 140 grain Accubond is that its b.c. is .496

That's pretty high for a .277 bullet. The only one I can think of off-hand that is better is a new 150 gr. Hornady Interbond. It's b.c. is something like .525

Of course, inside of 300, no 400 yards, none of this matters. Just choose the most accurate bullet and enjoy!

friar

The 270 has a reputation of destroying quite a bit of meat on a deer kill. That being said, go with a bullet of tougher construction: TSX vs Ballictic Tip. Something that doesn't open up so violently might serve you well.

Accuracy and bullet placement: Choose the bullet weight and construction that your rifle shoots best. The 270 is blessed with enough energy and momentum to dispatch any deer 400yds and less, with proper bullet placement, regardless of construction (okay, maybe not a FMJ).

Don't worry, be happy! If your rifle likes it and you put the pill in the right spot, you'll have venison in the freezer!

M

Forgot to mention: Keep the bullet weight between 130 and 150grs. I think there's a 160 from somebody out there, but why bother. The 270 was developed around the 130gr weight and going any heavier means more unnecessary bullet drop...for deer...especially White Tail.

M

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Originally posted: The 270 is blessed with enough energy and momentum to dispatch any deer 400yds and less, with proper bullet placement, regardless of construction (okay, maybe not a FMJ).M

I keep coming bck to your post, Moonshoot. I don't disagree with any of it, but it sure makes me think a bit.


In the U.S. almost no one apparently concentrates on learning and practicing how to both kill and "stop" game with full metal patch bullets.

In places like Africa and Asia, they had to.

The answer apparently was (and is) the medium-high shoulder shot. Properly placed, it will both break the animal down instantly (prevent it from running off) and kill it from massive blood loss in short order.

Near misses of the shoulder ball joint area with good solids are pretty deadly too. A tad high, and they still destroy all sorts of major blood vessels and/or hit the spine. A bit forward, and they nail the major blood vessels running through the animal just above the brisket and into the neck which feed blood to and from the brain. A bit back but still on the shoulder and they will likely get both lungs or the major aorta to/from the lungs.

A tad too low and a little back, and the blood-pump (heart) is struck....and in that instance the deer MAY run into thick brush and be lost if the bullet hasn't tumbled any.

Hit anywhere on the mid-to upper shoulder, there is a good chance pieces of bone will become pretty deadly secondary missiles too.

^There are good chances of failing to kill quickly and cleanly with any bullet, if it is not carefully, deliberately, and accurately placed. But properly placed, that solid can do a very fine job of killing anything from dik-dik to elephant, as many of the old African pros proved over and over again.

On reflection, I think maybe that is as true of deer as anything else.

130 NBTs over H4831. If I need anything bigger, I'll use a bigger cartridge. To my mind, the 130 is the essence of the 270. However, I do have a box of Sierra 140s sitting around that I am thinking about trading or loading up. Anyone have a pet load and velocities for the .277 140 Sierra BTSP?

Lou