Does anyone hear use a 220 RN in there 30/06 , i just picked up some Hornady 220 RN and i wanted to give them a try next year on deer and black bear i was wondering what 220's you were using and maybe you could share your pet loads. I am going to try IMR4831 53.0 grains and was also going to try some IMR4350

220, rel 22, aim for 2500fps..

jeffe

i usa 52grs of 4350. seems to work great but never grouped or crono'ed them.

I'm another 220 gr fan.

Howdy,

I use the 220 grain Nosler Partition with 51.0 grains of IMR-4350. Estimated velocity is 2450fps. Works very well, and can be relied upon for one inch groups out of three .30-06s, a Browning Safari and two MCA Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifles. Tried the Hornaday 220 RN in testing, and it performed well too, still have a half box of them on the shelf. The Nosler 220 gr, dropped five head of African plains game including a 56 inch kudu, all with one shot. Have already started reloading for my next safari.
LLS
Mannlicher Collector

Actually, the 220 grain RN is my favorite hunting bullet in the 30/06 and 300 Win Mag....

High velocity or low velocity.... it will penetrate right thru an animal....elk, deer or bear....

My favorite is the Nosler SMP 220 grain, although I have never needed a bullet as tough as it on anything I have shot.. since I haven't been to Alaska hunting Kodiak bear or have NO desire to go to Africa....

It has always been accurate and hard hitting plus penetrating bullet... I have even loaded it in the 30/30 Winchester with good results... in fact it is one of the few bullets that an old 30.30 handed down seems to like for accuracy....

It is a sweet heart in my old 30.40 Krag also....

A 220 grain will never let ya down...I keep the distance under 300 yds with it, in the 300 Mag and down to about 250 in the other calibers...

It gets the big thumbs up from seafire!

cheers
seafire

I've never found anything that'd stop a 180gr from a 30-06... though I imagine a slower heavier bullet would make
somewhat less mess on the impact side...

Whatever floats your boat... just be sure to
practice enough (not paper targets from the bench)
so you know where the bullet is going to go at various ranges

AllanD

I once killed two pigs with one shot, using a 220 grain Sierra in my '06 (they were bedded down together...but only looked like one).

Bullet ended up under the far side hide of the second pig, nicely mushroomed. Load was 47 grains of HiVel No.2 (chrono'ed 2,355 fps).

30-06 Springfield Mauser 98 Sporter 24 220 Hornady RN 2500 A AA-3100 59 CCI 250 Win 3.270
30-06 Springfield Mauser 98 Sporter 24 220 Hornady RN 2500 A H-414 52 CCI 250 Rem 3.270
30-06 Springfield Mauser 98 Sporter 24 220 Barnes Solid 2500 A H-414 50 CCI 200 PMC 3.259
30-06 Springfield Mauser 98 Sporter 24 220 Barnes Solid 2500A AA-3100 57.5 CCI 250 PMC 3.259


Never Chrongraphed any of them. the 2500 A mean approximate. I have killed Deer with both the Barnes and the Hornady. Both kill well from any angle and there will be a 1.5" to 2.5 " all the way through with the heart lungs damaged equaling that plus whatever was in front of the bullet when it hit. Should one have bone in front of the lungs the damage from the solids are impressive with the Soft's even more so of course.

Tanoose,

Here's some of my load data that you may find useful.

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Date: 6/23/2002
Cartridge: .30-06 Springfield
Firearm: Ruger M77 MkII
Scope: Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5x
Barrel Length: 22"
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Bullet: 220 gr Hornady RN
Powder: 52.0 grs of IMR-4350
Case Make: W-W
Primer: WLR (not magnum)
C.O.L:. 3.18"

Chrono Summary (for 10 shots):
Average Velocity: 2,421 fps
Average Energy: 2,864 ft lbs
High Velocity: 2,436 fps
Low Velocity: 2,402 fps
Extreme Spread: 34 fps
Standard Deviation: 13 fps
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Bullet: 220 gr Woodleigh RN
Powder: 52.0 grs of IMR-4350
Case Make: W-W
Primer: WLR (not magnum)
C.O.L.: 3.15" (My Ruger has a short throat and the Woodleigh RN is a blunt bullet.)

Chrono Summary (for 10 shots):
Average Velocity: 2,462 fps
Average Energy: 2,962 ft lbs
High Velocity: 2,479 fps
Low Velocity: 2,437 fps
Extreme Spread: 42 fps
Standard Deviation: 12 fps
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I used this rifle and the 220 gr Woodleigh RN load in South Africa back in 2002. Some results are below. (I've posted these pics before here on AR in an older thread.)


Limpopo Bushbuck taken along the Limpopo River


Warthog


Red Hartebeest

There's nothing wrong with the ol' 220 gr bullets in the .30-06 Springfield. They're not meant for shooting across canyons, but they shoot plenty flat out to 200 yards or so. And, they took the smaller animals with very little meat damage. Of course, a good 180 gr bullet would have taken these same animals with no problem. Call me old fashioned but I just like the ol' 220 gr bullets in the .30-06. They still work. It seems I have some kindred spirits on this thread!

Cheers....
-Bob F.

I ended up with a few boxs of them . I loaded them with surplus 852 for 2250 out of my 18 inch scout 30-06 and 2450 out of a 22 inch ruger MK 1,

They kill black bears just fine.

Thanks for your replys i am using a ruger M77MKII ultra light with a 20" I want to get 2400 fps from what i see i shouldn't have a problem although 2300 would also be a fine hunting velocity with the 220. Im starting with 53.0 of IMR4831 working my way up 1/2 grain increments and i think i will start with 50.0 of IMR4350 . I also have a 4th edition hornady manual it shows a maxload with IMR4831 of 57.5 to me that seems high and would be a compressed load with a 220 It will be fun working with the 220 . Thanks again Tanoose

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Originally posted by Tanoose:
Does anyone hear use a 220 RN in there 30/06 , i just picked up some Hornady 220 RN and i wanted to give them a try next year on deer and black bear i was wondering what 220's you were using and maybe you could share your pet loads. I am going to try IMR4831 53.0 grains and was also going to try some IMR4350

I never used them in my .30/'06, but I did use them in my .308 Norma Mag. (formerly a 1903A3 '06 Remington (Springfield) and in a Win. M70 FTW .308. My .308 load was 48 grains of MRP and the Horn. 220 or the Sierra 220 RN for around 2300 FPS. This was one of the most deadly deer loads I ever used-it just seemed to drop them on the spot, quite the contrary of what I had been lead to expect from such a slow, heavy bullet. In addition, meat damage was a lot less than caused by a 150-grainer! Of course, you can drive them much faster from the '06, but 2300 is plenty for a woods load!

I now have a 220-grain Hornady RN load for my Ruger No.3 in .30/40 Krag that I got from a Bob Hagel article years ago in RIFLE magazine. It uses WW760 powder, produces a MV of 2450 FPS, and is also extremely accurate!

Try those 220's! You will be impressed.

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Originally posted by DougH9:
I once killed two pigs with one shot, using a 220 grain Sierra in my '06 (they were bedded down together...but only looked like one).

Bullet ended up under the far side hide of the second pig, nicely mushroomed. Load was 47 grains of HiVel No.2 (chrono'ed 2,355 fps).

Hi Vel # 2.... how many years ago was this? I didn't know they made Sierra 220 RN that far back.

The Sierra 220 is also one of my favorite bullets in the '06.

Terry, It was only a few years ago. For some reason I became interested in collecting old reloading components, and using them for hunting in my old Model 70's. I have some nice OLD stuff.

The Sierras were from the Whittier Calif. plant. I think that was around '58 to '64.

My Columbian Madsen likes 220 Hornady's.
IMR 4831 51.6gr & CCI 200 on LC69 brass
COL: 3.368-3.370 (0.070 off the lands)
2291 fps average, 10 shots
50 yards, iron sights

A fantastic load for close range/ground cover in the .30-06. Guys in S.E. Alaska swear by the
220gr. in the '06. On blacktails, it is like one brove a piece of 3/8ths re-bar through the
animal. No meat wasted. Game seems to drop instantly. I LIKE heavy for caliber, my self.
Just wish I could get my hands on Woodleighs 180PP for my .270's

Tanoose ----- I am a little more partial to the 200 grain RN in Nosler Partition. I used it on my Brown Bear with a .300 Winny. My brother-in-law uses it on his Bison farm with excellent results with his 30-06. Good shooting.

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Originally posted by phurley5:
Tanoose ----- I am a little more partial to the 200 grain RN in Nosler Partition. I used it on my Brown Bear with a .300 Winny. My brother-in-law uses it on his Bison farm with excellent results with his 30-06. Good shooting.

how long ago did you buy Nosler 200 grain RN's??

they have not be made in a decade or more..

too bad too!!!

the powder to use in the 06 behind the 220 gn proj are the slow burners like WXR,R22 and Norma MRP,work up to a vel of 2500-2550 and go hunting!!! i think R17 would do real well but have not tried it
Daniel

seafire/B17G ----- I have not bought any in 20 years. When I got back from my Bear hunt I bought 4 boxs, which was all I could find. The price on the boxs is quite interesting. I have since bought the 200 grain spire point Partition and cannot tell any difference in performance. My son and grandson still use the Winny, I now use a .340 Wby or .358 STA when hunting in Big Bear country. Good shooting.

Lived in Alaska for a while and as mentioned, the '06 w/ 220gr bullet well liked. Found the old Remington CoreLokt 220gr to be very effective on moose or whatever. Nothing exotic, shot in beater pre64 Mod.70std. and for most residents, simply a good hunting tool and proper round to do so. Back then you could buy the ammo anywhere and don't know if Remington even makes the same ammo these days?? Based on experience, I would use it today if needed.

It makes sense that a roundnose is a quicker killer than a spitzer at close range, and it makes sense that a cup and core 220 has more of everything to work with than a cup and core 180, but does a cup and core 220 do anything a premium 180 won't?

I liked the idea of a 220 30'06 so I took my M700 30'06 to Africa in 1997 loaded with Hornady's starting at 2450. A broadside double lung hit on a nice blue wildebeest bull stopped under the skin on the far side weighing 120 grains. A stern shot that landed just to the right of the tail of a large warthog shredded the right rear quarter resulting in a mobility kill. There was no exit and I recovered only the empty jacket. The finisher quartered through the lung but stopped in the far shoulder. I also popped a jackal at the request of my host. The bullet struck the chest broadside and the entire ribcage disappeared - on both sides. So, did I have a soft batch of bullets or does a fella need a stiffer bullet when hunting in the bushveld where the shots are routinely less than 100 meters?

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Originally posted by nordrseta:
It makes sense that a roundnose is a quicker killer than a spitzer at close range, and it makes sense that a cup and core 220 has more of everything to work with than a cup and core 180, but does a cup and core 220 do anything a premium 180 won't?

I liked the idea of a 220 30'06 so I took my M700 30'06 to Africa in 1997 loaded with Hornady's starting at 2450. A broadside double lung hit on a nice blue wildebeest bull stopped under the skin on the far side weighing 120 grains. A stern shot that landed just to the right of the tail of a large warthog shredded the right rear quarter resulting in a mobility kill. There was no exit and I recovered only the empty jacket. The finisher quartered through the lung but stopped in the far shoulder. I also popped a jackal at the request of my host. The bullet struck the chest broadside and the entire ribcage disappeared - on both sides. So, did I have a soft batch of bullets or does a fella need a stiffer bullet when hunting in the bushveld where the shots are routinely less than 100 meters?

That's an interesting comment. I've had problems pushing Hornady's 350gr .458 past 2200 fps because of core separation & excessive mushrooming. The bullets are very accurate, but terminal performance is wanting much past 2200 fps.