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I recently had my Savage 116FSS in 338WM cut back from 24" to 22 1/2" I was wondering how much velocity lose I can expect,I don't have access to a chrony to check it out myself.
The rifle seems "handier" but thats probably just an illusion.
Does anyone have a 338 with a 22"-23" barrel or any experiance with one,if so what are your opinions of it. rws2
 
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I cut my .338 Win. from 25 back to 23ins. Average loss was 31ft. per inch with handloads of either IMR4831 or IMR4350 and 225gr. bullets.
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Posts: 382 | Location: Lewiston, Idaho--USA | Registered: 11 February 2002Reply With Quote
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I've got a Savage 116 FLSAK in 338 Win Mag and because of the length of the muzzlebreak (2") it is essentially a 22" gun. My handloads have no problem getting as much velocity as I can stand with 225 grain bullets, I've settled on 2800 fps for accuracy and still have 4 more grains of Rel 22 I could pour into the case. Each gun is different but I'd be suprised if yours didn't do anything you needed it to do with plenty of omph left.
 
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Thanks for the info.rws2
 
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I wouldn't worry about the small differences you may get, the 338-06 is an excelent round and you will still best its velocity. You may notice that your heavier loads (250gr. ) will lose less velocity than your lighter ones (180-210gr.).
 
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rws, I'm the "22" BBL'D 338 WM GUY" around here as I've had three with 22" bbl's. It's no trick to get 2,850 fps with 225's and 2,950 (+) with 210's. RL22 or H4350 are my prefered powders. I generally don't shoot 250's in my rifles so can't comment there, though the few times I tried them, 2,650 (+) was the norm.

When I chopped my first some years ago to 22", I reasoned that the 338WM, with its bore volume/case capacity nearly identical to the 30-06's, should work fine... it did. Later I found other's prefer the 22" length as well... Finn Aagaard, John Barsness, Dave Petzal and Bob Bell to name a few... guess I wasn't such a dunder-head after all, despite many disbelieving looks that a "magnum" should never have a barrel so short!

Congratulations, you now own one of the most practical, dead-serious hunting cartridges chambered in nearly the "best" length barrel... (ok, 22.5" or 23" ain't bad either!).

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Gents,

Just today I chopped my M70 Classic 338 down to 22 inches.

When I first got the rifle, it was 26 inches with a muzzle brake. I didn't care for the brake, and ordered the tools from Brownells for recrowning barrels.

Here's a link with pictures of the job...

Barrel Surgery Link

After that, it was 24.750 inches, but I cut it again, like I mentioned, to 22 inches.

Now I call the rifle 'stubby'. [Wink]
 
Posts: 778 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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I prefer a 26" barrel, never felt the extra 4"'s had much to do with anything, my pocket knife is longer than that....and I pick up a better offhand shooting rifle with the longer barrel. better sight picture with iron sights and about 150 FPS give or take 25 FPS. I have hunted the outback of Austrailia, Africa and the NA continent in bush, mountains and greasewood flats and never was distrubed by a long barrel. Perhaps this is mostly in the mind of the user..why cut one off unless you hunt horseback then I suggest 20" barrels and the 9.3x63 or 338-06...I use a 308 Sav. M-99F for hunting horseback.
 
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The .338 Winchester is one of the few belted magnums that can usually be counted upon to deliver full velocity out of a 22" barrel, and if you want a really light .338, that's probably a good way to go. The down side is that it's not as steady off-hand (Ray's point), and you'll have to contend with more muzzle blast.

So I've decided that the best compromise for my own use is a .338 Win. Mag. with a 24" barrel. I own one like that with a #4 contour Hart barrel built on a pre-64 Model 70 action, and I've got another one on order that'll wear a 24" Kreiger.

Winchester's original (1958) Model 70 "Alaskan" came standard with a 25" barrel thru 1963.

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