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19 February 2008, 18:33
Blair338/378
9.3/300 Ultra...
Any of you guys played with one of these yet?


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Blair.

19 February 2008, 21:19
pinotguy
Not sure if this has been tried recently but the old 9.3x70 Magnum that DWM developed back in the late 1920's is essentially a 9.3 RUM. They used the 404 Jeff. case, shortened it slightly, and necked it down. Apparently they experimented with a number of diameters, not just the 9.3.
19 February 2008, 21:42
TheBigGuy
quote:
Originally posted by Blair338/378:
Any of you guys played with one of these yet?


No, but not a bad idea Smiler
19 February 2008, 21:58
Steve Malinverni
I read something about a 9.3Ultramagnum, but few words. it could be interesting


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Stefano
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20 February 2008, 00:42
gumboot458
..........I,m thinking about a 9.3x338 Rum ......But the 300 RUM would probably be better .....The neck up fron 338 to 9.3 would be an easy one ................Brass would be easier to get for the 300 tho as I really don,t see it being dropped any time soon ....


.If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined ....
20 February 2008, 00:51
Doc
probably the best concept I've heard of regarding wildcats.

I'd take one. Perfect for big bears!


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20 February 2008, 01:10
Clayman
That sounds like a pretty decent idea. You would be able to use it on buffalo where it was legal and you could take advantage of some higher BC bullets for putting the smack down on plains game. I would expect that nearly any of the belted magnum calibers (Win mag, Wby mag, etc) would perform well when necked to 9.3.


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20 February 2008, 01:20
ShortandFat
Gentlemen

I think a 338 - 9.3 RUM would work much better than the 300 - 9.3 RUM

I think the MOL of a 300 - 9.3 RUM would come up too long for even the 375 H&H action especially with the ballistically better and heavier 9.3 projectiles on the 300 Ultra case

In a single shot I can't see a problem

regards
S&F
20 February 2008, 03:34
Idaho Sharpshooter
I have experienced much more consistent case lengths and evenness necking down. Why not just neck the 375 RUM down .009"? KISS principle.

Rich
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20 February 2008, 04:18
Doc
well, I'm not smart enough to debate what parent case is the most logical to use but the concept is excellent.

375 RUM necked to accept the 9.3...whatever works easiest and best. I think part of the argument for the 300 was availability of brass, and the cost.

I'd still take one!


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20 February 2008, 09:50
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
I have experienced much more consistent case lengths and evenness necking down. Why not just neck the 375 RUM down .009"? KISS principle.

Rich
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Rich,

Much more logical thumb

I bet the sucker would shoot............


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Blair.

20 February 2008, 09:53
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by pinotguy:
Not sure if this has been tried recently but the old 9.3x70 Magnum that DWM developed back in the late 1920's is essentially a 9.3 RUM. They used the 404 Jeff. case, shortened it slightly, and necked it down. Apparently they experimented with a number of diameters, not just the 9.3.


Just goes to show, nothing new under the sun.

What pinots do you like?


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Blair.

20 February 2008, 11:05
Ol Bull
I had something like that a while back. It was a 375 dakota necked down to 9.3
Shot very well, 250 Northforks at 3050fps into .242" groups.
Sold it to a guy here at ar....WISH I HAD'T Wink


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20 February 2008, 20:49
pinotguy
quote:
Originally posted by Blair338/378:

What pinots do you like?


Red Burgundy is the King. Enjoy lots of domestic stuff (for me) as well - Russian River Valley, Sonoma Coast, Willamette Valley, and Santa Barbara are my favorite regions. Like some of the Kiwi and Yarra Valley Pinot's too.
21 February 2008, 02:06
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by pinotguy:
quote:
Originally posted by Blair338/378:

What pinots do you like?


Red Burgundy is the King. Enjoy lots of domestic stuff (for me) as well - Russian River Valley, Sonoma Coast, Willamette Valley, and Santa Barbara are my favorite regions. Like some of the Kiwi and Yarra Valley Pinot's too.


Yeah I've been enjoying some of the 05' Red Burgundies. Wish we could get some of your domestic wines here in Oz; now that our dollar is at 92 of your cents! The few Russian River wines I've had all were crackers thumb

The Kiwis have surpassed Oz well and truly! Though some of our wines from the Mornington Peninsula are generally better than Yarra Valley.


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Blair.

21 February 2008, 02:08
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by Ol Bull:
I had something like that a while back. It was a 375 dakota necked down to 9.3
Shot very well, 250 Northforks at 3050fps into .242" groups.
Sold it to a guy here at ar....WISH I HAD'T Wink


No ,you shouldn't have, SOLD IT!!!! Big Grin

Don't you hate that?


Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!!

Blair.

21 February 2008, 02:10
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by ShortandFat:
Gentlemen

I think a 338 - 9.3 RUM would work much better than the 300 - 9.3 RUM

I think the MOL of a 300 - 9.3 RUM would come up too long for even the 375 H&H action especially with the ballistically better and heavier 9.3 projectiles on the 300 Ultra case

In a single shot I can't see a problem

regards
S&F


Joe,

Long and fat is better than short and fat, any day Wink Big Grin


Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!!

Blair.

21 February 2008, 03:48
gumboot458
quote:
Originally posted by Ol Bull:
I had something like that a while back. It was a 375 dakota necked down to 9.3
Shot very well, 250 Northforks at 3050fps into .242" groups.
Sold it to a guy here at ar....WISH I HAD'T Wink
. ...No Joke .....That is the kind of rifle that you build a spare exactly the same in case you ever some how ever misplace it ,,Like placeing it in the classifieds CRYBABY...............The 338 RUM does 2900 fps very well with the factory 250 gr Swift A Frame .....I could tell mine wanted to run faster but the bullet casn,t fat enough to turn all that powder into speed ....I think the 9.3 would be pretty execellent , and it would out run the 9.3 Sisk by a fair amount .............If a CZ550 Saf Mag action was used like I plan to , the 375 Rum or 300 RUM length would work fine ........Not that I need it but I would really like another Remington 700 Stainless in 338 RUM .....It was light to pack around and nice and fast ........... coffee With the 9.3 tho it would go 250 fps faster than my Brenneke ......Which would make a very impressive moose rifle ........ECT..


.If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined ....
21 February 2008, 06:05
Doc
ok, so it seems we are fish in the same pond on this one.

who's gonna build the first one?


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21 February 2008, 09:45
Blair338/378
quote:
Originally posted by Doc:
ok, so it seems we are fish in the same pond on this one.

who's gonna build the first one?


Big Grin thumb

Doc,

I'll check and see if my barrel maker does a 9.3mm barrel. I'm not sure if he does; it's much more popular in Victoria than NSW.

If he does have the tooling for it, I'll build one. A mate has a 358/300 RUM; its deadly accurate. thumb


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Blair.

21 February 2008, 22:54
Atkinson
Since most 9.3 bullets would be too soft for the obtainable speeds of the RUM and larger cases, I would think it would be an undesirable cartridge except for monolithic bullets....


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22 February 2008, 01:34
Idaho Sharpshooter
don't listen to Ray, he's just trying to decoy us while he orders a reamer and builds the first one.

Any two of you want to go in with me and see about reamers from Manson and dies from CH4D? PM me and we'll get going. I have one more Enfield to sacrifice and Krieger makes some really good barrels.

Rich
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22 February 2008, 08:57
Blair338/378
My barrel maker here in Oz doesn't do 9.3 barrels......zero demand he reckons Frowner

Happy to chip in for the reamer (what's the cost of JGS?) and get an export barrel.

And I'm happy to use monolithics, especially the Lapua Naturalis Smiler

Does Bartlein do a 9.3? Which is a better barrel? Them or Krieger?


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Blair.