Hmmm. The one that came with my 550 American was a cloverleaf!! Must have been shot from a machine rest, as there are no open sights on the rifle, and there were NO marks on the rings (which were a mile high and replaced by Talleys, posthaste - BTW, Burris and Leupold also make rings for the 550's) or the dovetails on the receiver. I'd definitely wonder about that 2" group, especially if it was fired from a machine rest.

Finding loaded ammo can be problematical for the 9.3x62 here in the states. Do a google search for S&B, Norma, RWS and Lapua, and hopefully you'll find something. A couple 9.3x62 guys in here have reported good luck with S&B, maybe they'll chime in with a vendor's name.

My 9.3's always been handloaded, using Lapua brass, Norma 232 Oryx's, 250 B-Tips and 270 Speers. RL15 seems to be the powder of choice, but I've had good luck with the 4895's too.

R-WEST

I think the same relative to the test target. Has to have been shot out of a machine rest, I'd think. The 9.3x62 is supposed to be one of those highly inherently accurate rounds, too; isn't it?

I'll continue worrying until I get some ammo and can go shoot it. Did I mention how beautiful it is, though? And how the iron sights come right to the eye?

Steve

Don't know if it's 'target rifle' accurate, but, I've yet to try a load in mine that wouldn't be hunting accurate, especially for the size of game it's used on.

Hey, check out this link http://www.reloadersnest.com/article_9362_oct2803.asp Found it while I was wasting time and thought of your post right away.

Seems like you really like that rifle, huh?

R-WEST

Concerning the test targets from CZ, all three of my rifles came with test targets that look like they were punched with a hole puncher. Never seen wad cutters in 7 or 9.3mm. Bob

R-West,



Great article. Yeah, I really like the rifle. I hope I can get it to shoot well.



Bob,



That's funny. My shot holes look like about .270 or .284 inches wide, but there's a clear red "9,3x62" stamped on the target.



Steve

I acquired my 9.3x62 CZ American used from a board member. Didn't have a factory target in it that I remember ... will have to look again.

First load out of the can was 270 grain Speers in front of 58.0 gr RL15 in Norma cases with WLR primers. Quick group was 3/4" at 100 yards. Ain't complaining.

Next lot to go to the range is workup loads with 286 gr Noslers on Graf cases. Will be very interesting!

This rifle in this caliber seems to be a very comfortable combination of good power and mild recoil. Can't ask for more.

Mike,

Where'd you buy the brass? How'd you like the Norma cases? I read on the forum some complaint about having to ream out the primer pockets. Did you have the same problem? Also, I read that the Graf brass has a wider base and needs a bigger shellholder. Can you confirm it? I've got the big set of shellholders from Lee.

Thanks,

Steve

I started with some Norma brass sent with the rifle, then bought a bunch of Graf brass.

Haven't seen any problem with primer pockets but I prime rifle cases with an RCBS tool that goes on top of a Rock Chucker. It doesn't exhibit difficulty priming unless the cases have a full military crimp ;>

My shell holder is an old RCBS that has loaded a BUNCH of 45 and 308 (IPSC in the early days and feeding a belt fed) ... so it may be worn a bit ... but it works fine with both Norma and Graf brass. (It amazes me that I should be glad my stuff has some wear on it.)

FWIW,

I've only bought one box of factory ammo, Norma 232gr. It shot quite well and the brass seems very consistent. I forgot where I ordered it, so I can't help there

I've reloaded the Norma brass, Lapua brass and Graf brass with no problems, along with forming R-P 30-06 brass for most of my practice firing.

I'll probably stick with Lapua for serious hunting ammo and Graf's for practice/fun hunting ammo.

You've got a good rifle, finding ammo shouldn't be too much problem.

Rick

Is the 232gr Norma bullet available to hand loaders? Source? Thanks, Bob

The specialty loaders load 9.3 at reasonable prices -- Superior Ammo, Safari Arms, Quality Cartridge -- all available on the Internet. I've use them all and they do an excellent job, plus you can specify the bullets you want, etc.

VFR

The TIG and TUG bullets by RWS have a ledge like a semi-wadcutter pistol bullet. They cut sharp holes on paper targets. I have used them in 7x64, 9.3x62 and 64.

However, I would be very impressed if CZ used such expensive rounds in their testing. It is possible, though.

Look at the bright side: the limited availability of loaded 9.3x62 ammo in the US will spur you to finish your basement sooner. S&B shot one freakishly small group (.17" for three shots at 100 yards) in my 550, then went to 1.5 MOA. The 270-gr. Speer, 250-gr. Ballistic Tip and 286-gr. Partition do about 1 MOA. From what I've read around here I suspect it's an inherently accurate cartridge much like the 308. And don't be fooled by one test target anymore than you would be fooled by the one tiny group my rifle turned in. Your mileage may vary.

Hope this helps, Okie John.

Jphn,

It does help. I love the remark on the basement; you're more right than you know.

I ordered dies, bullets, and Norma brass from Midway. Can't wait to shoot this rifle.

Thanks,

Steve

Is the 232gr Norma bullet available to hand loaders? Source? Thanks, Bob
I was all set to type in "try Graf's, that's where I got mine" till I went to their site, and all they have listed are the 286 Oryx's. Then I went to Midway's site, and they show nothing but 286's, too. Bummer!! I'd say to check with either one periodically, maybe they'll get more in?

R-WEST

Thanks R-West, The bigger bullets are fine for the 64, but the 57 case just begs for the 232's. I'll give them a call. Bob

I would not worry mate,

I have the same rifle it's great. The forend may be touching the barrel ??

Get some good homeloads together and you will see that it will shoot. All my 5 cz's shoot well.

I use Norma brass and 286 Noslers 1.5" group at 200 meters. Killed 1 elk. Moose and bear are next. Good luck

Well sub 2 inch groups out of the box and it dose it all the time, well that is plenty accurate for any big game you will shoot with a 9.3 x 62. They are just good rifles, a little work on the trigger and maybe a bedding and recrown job will improve things a bit. I could live, with 2 inches, hell 40 years ago if you got that out of the box, you had bragging rights. The only problem with the 9.3 is ammo, not everybody stocks it, but with the internet and handloading, its not a big enough problem to shy away from a very good cartridge. So you go to Graf's order 500 cases, and you get some 286 gr Nosler partitions, some RL-15 and you are in business.

Thanks all. I appreciate the list of loaders (i.e. superior, quality, & safari arms) and the suggestion on using RL 15. I ordered some Norma brass, dies, and some Nosler 286 gr bullets. I have some H380, IMR 4064, and some IMR 4895. Anybody had luck with any of those powders, the Noslers, and Norma brass? Anybody case forming with 30-06 brass? What's case life like with the 9.3 brass and with the necked up 30-06 brass? Thanks, Steve

SKL1,

do not bother with necking 06 brass up mate, it has a slighlt reduced case capcity I believe and therefore pressures will be a tad highre. I reckon you would be best served by getting a couple of hundred pieces of Lapua brass, it is first rate and thats what I use in my cz 9.3 sexy humpback

PC,

Roger on not necking up the 30-06. Any powder bullet combinations your 9.3 likes?

Steve

I've shot a couple hundred rounds with R-P brass necked up to 9.3 for my lighter loads with the 270gr Speer bullets. It works just fine but the case ahead of the web really looks stressed where it bulges out to fill the chamber. I didn't have any problems and fired the cases about five times before my nerve gave out and ordered some Graf brass

Brass that actually fits is probably the best idea, but it's comforting to know there's a ready source should the import supply dry up.

hth

Rick

skl1,

to date I have only used the 270 gr speer infront of 56 gr of AR2208 with a wlr primer in the lapua case.

The speer is a great bullet for roo's & would also be good on feral pigs and I suspect feral horses, there will be folk who chime in and say it's soft etc. but that really only pertains to cape buff etc. On most average species the speer 270 gr is fine and offers a cheap bullet especially for you Yanks

The 9.3x62 also runs at speeds which ensure bullet integrity. So give the speer a go before canning it, it would be great on your smaller deer species. The woodleigh is the bullet I would choose for werious work, weights from 250 gr right through to the "penetration" 320 gr woodleigh 9.3 bullet

Hi
CZ annonced 1/10 inch rifling twist for 9,3x62 in their catalog which is the correct twist if you will hanload with woodleigh 300gr + bullets. Does anyone controled the rifling twist in new cs riles? if so please confirm it ,because i am planing to buy a 9,3 and the old ones here usually have a twist of 1/14 which can not stabilise the heavy bullets.
regards
danny

I would be interested to hear if I have the older one I supect I do but I have no accuracy problems with the 270 gr weight bullets.