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Well, I just bought a nice Husky Model 146 in 9,3x57! Now, I need some advice. The rifle is in great shape, not drilled in any way and the stock is solid and uncut. Even the bluing on the 98 action and bbl is pretty darn good. Should I feel bad about reaming it to 9,3x62 and putting an orange silvers recoil pad on it? I hate to mess with a nice old factory gun like that, but I also like the idea of turning the rifle into what it probably should have been in the first place (at least IMHO). Advice?  | ||
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I'm 100% with Remington 720 - that's way too nice a rifle to start fiddling with IMO. Nice slender Euro forearm w/schanbel and from the photo appears to have a fairly straight buttstock also; without a lot of drop, so you're not gonna get hammered in the Chops. Those "lighter" stalking rifles can be a bit fussy at the bench as they want to bounce around on the bags a bit without a forearm hold but soild bench techinque will have you pluncking 'em in the X-ring in no time. Appears to be in great condition! Get a set of F/L Dies, load some ammo and go see what those open sight will do at the range; I'd reco a Slip-On Pad or a Sissy Pad for an extended Get-to-Know range session - in the field you'll never notice the absence of a Silver's (although they are nice). With a somewhat less velocity than a 9.3x62; your 9.3x57 is basically a .358 Winchester on a Steroid diet. It's tailor-made for some inexpensive Speer 270 grainers. Have fun with it - IMO, the way it is! Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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Dont ruin it - use it as is. If it was a grotty clunker then a rechamber might be worthwhile - but it isnt - so dont do it . There is virtually nothing in the USA in the realm of normal , everyday hunting that you wont stop with a 9.3x57 loaded with Speer 270 grainers. If the Scandanavians can shoot moose with it why cant you ? ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Another few photos... I am thinking about a compromise of re-chambering but then, as I like a longer length of pull, either adding the recoil pad at the current lenght or just leaving the stock as is. hmmm....either way saving the unbroken butt-plate.   Just a bit of wear on this side...  | |||
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The 9.3x57 will put you in the same range as a 358 Win, which is good company. She'll be a great deer and hog gun. Buy a CZ in 9.3x62, if you need the extra oomph. | |||
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Tendrams: Bloody lovely rifle. I think you are being well advised to leave it as is. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Are there no enablers out there? Thanks for the compliments, all.   The thing is, the weapon does need a glass bedding as there is a minor crack between the trigger and magazine on the underside of the rifle and I am hoping to prevent the usual future crack behind the tang. Does that reality impact this broader set of decisions at all? | |||
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way too nice to mess with. | |||
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One thing you'll find out in short order: the sights on that rifle are regulated for 286 gr bullets, not the lighter 270 or 260 gr bullets. 286 gr Partizan Privi bullets at Graf's are cheap and very effective for the x57. They have a second crimp groove that works well for it. Full house 9.3x62 will not shoot close to point of aim without some sight work. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I have one like that and decided to buy something already in 9.3x62 instead of butchering mine. I was tempted like you, but I don't regret leaving it alone for a moment. The 9.3x57 is a killer of round (pardon the pun) and is very very easy on the shoulder even with a hard butt plate. Anything (I mean ANYTHING) you hit well with that rifle will go down in short order! You can buy Norma brass or just run some 8 Masuer through the FL die and load. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Interested in selling it? I am actually trying for a pair of these.  | |||
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No such luck, Amigo . But they still pop up at Allan's Armory and Kebco from time to time."Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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A couple of weeks ago the Cabelas in Ft. Worth had several different 9,3x57 rifles on the rack. I would not change it. The 9,3x57 is a good cartridge. Baised on my use of the 270 Seer on deer and igs in my 9,3x74R it would work great in the 9,3x57. If it does not shoot to point of aim, and you need a heavier bullet suited to the velocity of the 9,3x57, then try some 285gr Hawks with the .030jacket. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Aren't you folks comparing factory fodder? The hand loaded 9.3x57 will out perform the 358 somewhat, no? (Not that there is any reason to want more than enough). Regards 303Guy | |||
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I have a slightly older model 46, unaltered with a rather fantastic stock. I thought about some mods like cock on opening, Win mod 70 type safety, and drilling for scope mounts, and decided to leave it original. I have not shot it that much, but did have to play with the windage adjustment a bit and managed to get the group centered in x ring of a 25 yard pistol target, at first at 25 yards then 50. In my opinion, this rifle is too light and well balanced to mess around with. Even with my old eyes and trifocals I can shoot it well so will keep it 100% original. JJK | |||
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Personally, as good as the CZ is, it's a bit heavy & clunky. If a 9.3x62 is what you want and you have the rifle already, then proceed. I have several Husky 9.3x57's and I have to say I prefer the ones based on the 96 as they are lighter/trimmer. The M146 seems a bit chunky for a 9.3x57 but about perfect as a 9.3x62. The 9.3x57 when handloaded is no slouch but it ain't a 9.3x62 either.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Hey goofball, Re-chamber...help the economy...spread the wealth. Drill it and tap it too Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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How about putting a $1000 set of claw bases and rings on a $400 rifle?! That'll help the economy!  | |||
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Now you are talking! Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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If you have bought it for use in Buffalo country, then Scoping it and a x62 conversion would be my recommendation.  | |||
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I have an identical rifle. They're fine the way they are but I rechambered mine to 62 and replaced the bolt handle with an Oberndorf sporter type. Make sure the action is well bedded, the stocks are on the light side and I've seen some with cracks. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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ozhunter and fla3006, That's the sort of enabling attitude I have been looking for!  I am looking for an undrilled twin to this one if anyone knows of a source.Darn nice buff too...and to think a lowly 9,3 bullet killed it! Reading some of the posts on this board, you would think that so much more than a .366 hole in heart/lungs is necesssary to get one on the ground! | |||
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I've got the exact same type of rifle. It's not drilled/tapped and came with a nice walnut stock. I have added an internal crossbolt behind the recoil lug, a pillar for the rear action screw, and have glass bedded the front of the action in the area around the recoil lug. I plan on having it re-chambered to 9.3x62. I have tested the feeding with 9.3x62 dummies and it really works great. Have you seen the cost of 9.3x57 dies? The difference between 9.3x62 dies will pay for the re-chambering. David | |||
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While I'm a big fan of both cartridges and think that rechambering is perectly fine and indeed to be encouraged, the cost difference between dies wiil hardly pay for the rechambering. 9.3x57 dies $64.99 9.3x62 Dies $70.99 Yes, RCBS 9.3x62 dies are less expensive but not enough to pay for the work. Now, the 9.3x64 dies I have on order are a good deal more than the 9.3x57. Still, that hasn't stopped me from proceeding with the rechambering of a spare 9.3x57 I have. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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z1r, The link posted shows 9x57mm dies. Is that different or do you think they made a mistake? I was looked at Midway USA for prices. Question about rechambering. Do you need to remove the barrel? Will that mess up bluing? Thanks, David | |||
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Nevermind - I checked again and I think they meant 9.3x57. | |||
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I wish someone would duplicate those great stock styles in laminated and synthetic ..... As is I would have your stock duplicated for hunting and save the original stock in the safe ........ . What we need is everyone with a 9.3x57 or 62 to convert them to 9.3x64 and start the hue and cry for Brass ..............Then no one would be the little train that almost could and I could get brass for my 64 ..  .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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LOL, that is pure selfishness gummy.....but I am with you on this matter. The 64 brass needs to be more readily available. I've done my homework and acquired what I need for some time but..it was a piece of work getting them..however I did. On subject though, I'd go for the 9.3x62 whatever the cost as mine is quite capable of performing in the foothills here in taking both grizz and moose with ease and with considerable less blood shot than most other calibers I have used outside the .45-70 The 62 is a damn good meat gun. | |||
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I just found out yesterday that I have 40 pieces of 9.3x64 on the way. I had thought for a while that my project was on hold. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I would leave it alone, I have been hunting with a 9.3X62 the last couple of years and most of my shots have been close and fast. The 9.3 bullets roll a running deer at 30 yards like nobodys business. The rifle you have is perfect for that kind of hunting.Any deer you hit that can tell the difference at 50 yards between a 9.3X57 and a 62 is way to picky. | |||
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z1r ,, where are you getting your brass ..???? .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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Germany, I paid through the nose. I would have liked 100 pieces but that would have trippled the cost. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I've been buying Privi Partizan 9.3x62mm brass via mail order in the USA, it's good brass, no problems at all. And does a 9.3x62mm roll'em! One shot 150 yards Waterbuck, a slap down. Twenty-five yards in heavy underbrush, Nyala, slap down, and the impact of a 258 grain RWS on a Impala at 90 yards was equally impressive. Those big 9.3mm bullets just do the job!! LLS | |||
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Welcome aboard!! My 9.3 is a Sako AV Fiberclass in 9.3x62. I can't wait to get a little blood on it. Lou **************** NRA Life Benefactor Member | |||
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Ordering this rifles twin on monday...... I might just violate both of them with a 9,3x62 reamer. bwahahahahahah ! ! ! !  | |||
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That sounds kinda kinky!  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I bought one of these last year and had it reamed out to x62. Filed the rear sight to zero and just finished using it on safari in South Africa. I wish modern rifle manufacturers would test fondle the stock on one of these before designing their rifles. | |||
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TWIN SWEDES AND A 9,3x62 REAMER...... Sounds like the makings of a great movie if the twins weren't pushing 80 years old. | |||
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