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Does anyone here have any experience with one of these rifles? I saw one at the Cabela's in Hamburg PA last week, thought it was a neat looking rifle. Can someone tell me a little about these rifles?
 
Posts: 454 | Location: Califon, NJ USA | Registered: 18 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Well, I've got a 14 in .25 Remington, and it is surprisingly accurate. The old rifles are far from fancy, are a bit on the hefty side, and are probably not as strong in breeching as newer slide-action rifles. But in terms of utility, the old .35 Remington will kill whitetails and black bears all day long, so long as you keep your shots within the competency range of the sights and trajectory of the relatively slow-moving and velocity-shedding roundnose slug.

The ole' boys who used to carry .35's always looked down their noses at .30-30's, claiming better "bush-bucking" and "knock down power". In truth, there's not that much difference (neither will "buck brush"), but that doesn't detract from the fact that the .35 is a good limited-range deer gun, and the Model 14 is a reasonably slick old rifle.
 
Posts: 13262 | Location: Henly, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2001Reply With Quote
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Cool old gun. I love .35 Remingtons. I believe Frank Hamer used one to take out Bonnie and Clyde in the famous shoot out. I've seen them and gun shows and have been tempted but so far have resisited.
 
Posts: 338 | Location: Johnsburg, Illinois | Registered: 15 December 2002Reply With Quote
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I presently own four of these rifles. I had more but kept the really nice ones. They were made from 1912 to 1934. They were cheapened up a bit and became the model 141 in 1936. These are my favorite rifles over anything else I own. The machine work is exceptional! They seem to all be accurate and they work slicker than any other rifle I have tried including levers and Remingtons new pump rifles. They are a take down design. There were some variations over the years such as the Thumbnail safety (rare), carbines, different sights, and stocks. The early ones till about 1919 had a rear wheel type sight which is really slick.They kept cutting the notch in the barrel for this sight until end of production so some people think that the sights were switched on their rifle but this is not the case if it was built in 1920 or later.They also have the spiral magazine tube so that pointed bullets can be used because the cartridges are tipped so that bullet points don't hit primers. These rifles are excellent but were discontinued mostly becuse due to all of the machine work required to build them (the small brush guard on the end of the magazine tube was even machined from a solid piece of steel!) they were cost prohibitive.
 
Posts: 129 | Location: Kennerdell,PA | Registered: 04 November 2003Reply With Quote
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An old gentleman I know locally who was originally from Minnesota, told me that the gun he hunted deer with in Minnesota was the old Rem 14 in 35 Remington.

He said that was the best deer rifle on the planet and would beat the pants in every way off of any 30/30 ever made. I use to just love and listen to him describing his and all the deer he took with it and other members of his family doing the same.

He had a stroke a few years back now, and is in a wheel chair. But when I see him, I always tell him " Hey Dick, what do you think of the old Model 14 Remington in 35 Remington?" He always smiles and gives me a big Thumbs up. The question alone brings back memories to him, that he can remember his life when he was not stuck in a wheel chair and paralyzed on one side. Now I can return the joy he gave me listen to those stories so he can relive them all in his mind, since he can no longer speak very well.

It has always left me with the desire to find one now.

Cheers and Good shooting
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Hello. These are great guns. Alas, my .35 is hunting now for a stranger, but I know it did darn fine work for me. Still use a .32 wheel sight rifle in turn with the other tools, and it is just as deadly. But the .35 is the best. Use factory ammo or, if you reload, watch case headspace and length, and bullet seating depth, You can make it slamfire if you get things out of order. Good hunting.
 
Posts: 2374 | Location: Eastern North Carolina | Registered: 27 August 2003Reply With Quote
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Thanks gents. I would like to go look at that rifle again if time permits, and if someone has not picked it up already. I don't remember if it was a model 14 or 141, but it did have the 35 Remington cartridge base on the left side of the receiver and a buckhorn rear sight. I also did not know that the spiral magazine tube would allow round nose bullets to be used. I consulted a Speer loading manual for the cartridge, and it indicated that their 180 grain and 220 grain flat nose bullets were designed with the 35 Remington in mind. I don't need the rifle, but when is that ever an excuse...Wink
 
Posts: 454 | Location: Califon, NJ USA | Registered: 18 January 2002Reply With Quote
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No tin on those old babies, all milled parts and made with the precision of an old swiss watch..To expensive to produce today, they would have to charge an enormous amount of money to produce them today...Most shot well enough for what they were designed for...The Mod 14 was always my favorite, the later improved designs left me cold..

I used to have one in a 25 Remington, shot a few deer with it and then traded it and a sack of ammo for a saddle mule, complete with bridle..
 
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The later 141 is identical mechanically and I am pretty sure all metal parts interchange but it has more modern shaped stocks with fatter forend, less drop and closer grip. Arguably these are not much of an improvement, they are heavier, the rifles are not hard kickers with either style stock, and nearly all of them are used with iron sights anyway. Also most 141s have 24" instead of 22" barrels, although some of the first used 22" M14 barrels. Both 14 and 141s were and are immensely popular in PA (along with the later 760, 6 and 7600) where semi autos are banned. In .35 Rem perhaps the all round best woods country deer rifle.
 
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There were small differances between the 14 and 141. The milled brush guard on the magazine tube was replaced with a stamped unit. The barrel forgings for the front sight and magazine tube retainer were eliminated (except for the 141 made in 1936). Metal finish was not quite as good. While the 141 was a nice gun the 14's, especially the early ones made in the teens with the shotgun style buttstock, just seem "livelier". It is tough to find these guns in really nice shape because their owners used them!
 
Posts: 129 | Location: Kennerdell,PA | Registered: 04 November 2003Reply With Quote
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I got mine 40 yrs ago for my first dear rifle from my dad and will never part with it. I think he paid $45 for it at the time. Back then my dad even sold new Savages....I shoulda bought the 99 in 284 win. Now that would be a keepsake.
 
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