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Does this rifle look like it would be worth $1000 in your Opinion? Interesting treatment on the forend too, I have never seen one like that on a rifle. there is also a small repair behind the bolt              | ||
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For $1000 it would depend on how bad I needed a rifle. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I like it! May could bring a $1,000. ________ Ray | |||
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Don't need one bad, just want a 9.3x62mm bad! Been looking at the Ruger African and the CZ and just saw this one. | |||
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Poor inletting on the outside, maybe worse underneath. | |||
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Idaknow  I like the rifle and its looks, but I'm wondering what treatment was given to the cross bolt. It would have been nice to see the original Mauser type cross bolt left in place. | |||
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Think of it this way. It would cost more than $1000 to build that rifle. But, how it shoots is another issue altogether. | |||
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It has supposedly been to Africa a few times and shoots well, but has anyone ever sold a gun that shot badly? | |||
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No, but then 'badly' can be such a relative term . . .  Sarge Holland's .375: One Planet, One Rifle . . . for one hundred years! | |||
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It appears to have 8-40 holes too. That's a plus IMHO. | |||
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Looks like an Argentine 1909 action and bottom metal. If I were in the market for a 9.3x62 I think I'd give it a shot. | |||
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Look at the rear bridge and the hole spacing in specific. It's awful close to the edge meaning you will likely have a hard time fitting bases. Or, more precisely, commerical bases will likely over hang the bridge and interfere with the bolt handle. Unless, of course you alter the base.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Having thought it over, I believe $1,000 is at least $350 too high, maybe much more. That is because of the forend, and the way the barrel ends up being seated too shallowly within it. IF it suits one's tastes, it would certainly be useable, but I really wonder how that forend came about. Could it have been a split in the wood on one side which was "cured" by trimming the tops off of both sides? Would the buyer be allowed to remove the barreled action from the stock to see if there are possibly remaining splits? Exactly who is selling the gun, and WHY would be my next questions. How trustworthy are they? There may be good sound answers to all of those questions (let's assume there probably are), but if you ever decide to sell the gun after purchasing it, I suspect potential new buyers will be equally critical and curious. They likely will use those reasonable suspicions to beat your selling price way down. If it was bargain priced...say maybe $450-to-$500, I might take a chance on it, but at $1,000? No way. | |||
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I'm with jwheeler on this....if I needed one I too would get it. nothing wrong with a Mauser at all. has the appearance of a good working rifle. | |||
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Agreed  I think it needs a little professional attention before being put back to work. | |||
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Thanks guys. Probably right. Waiting on some more answers from seller. Probably go with the Ruger African since it is new and $200 cheaper | |||
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Depends what you want. MHO, if you could get the gun for a little less than $1,000, you'd have a nice barreled action for the basis of a pretty good looking custom. Plus it comes with a stock that you could use as a pattern stock. If you built a sporter/custom on an '09 Argentine from scratch, the $1,000 starts looking cheap. Personally, I'd rather have that than the off the shelf Ruger. ----------------------------------------------------- Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26-4 National Rifle Association Life Member | |||
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Great point Mike. I can't count the number of time i've had Mausers brought in with that problem.  The "repair" looks more like a fill in where there used to be a side safety. Another very important thing to look at is the sight alignmenmt. Are the front & rear sights lined up perfectly with eachother AND top dead center? $!000.00 no thanks.   Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Great Rifle. Buy it. :-) | |||
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AMEN to that brother!!! More than once in my life I've spent $1,000 worse than that! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Normally I'd choose a Mauser hands down but in this case, if I had to choose, I'd pick the New Ruger. Just too many iffy things about that Mauser. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Not for a thousand I agree with Ray 450-500 then you have some room to play with it. But then I perfer Rugers my self. | |||
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Not a bad looking rifle, I like it. In our shop we would put that rifle on the rack for about $595 | |||
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I'd have agree, $200.00 less doesn't impress me much | |||
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As I bought a very nice Mauser 9.3x62 and had it custom stocked for less than that (and still have it), I would still pass on this particular Mauser. I like Mausers very much, but I also have been very well served by Ruger rifles. So, in this instance, if I had to choose between a new Ruger and this Mauser, I think I'd take the Ruger, if it was a Ruger like Ray Atkinson's new one. $200 isn't a lot of money, but is way better than a kick with a frozen boot. It also seems to me better than having to spend even more money on this Mauser if one finds other things they don't like about it after they already have laid down "One Large". \ So, why don't one of you guys who think it is a good deal at that price buy it? Then we won't have to debate it. But I think DWright is "Wright" on the price it should be in a shop for.... | |||
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Not having had this rifle in hand makes it difficult but based on what I see and with the provision that it feeds correctly ?? I do not understand how anyone can say or claim that a Ruger is a better choice than this rifle? Not in a million years, not unless Ruger Changes their stock design and not unless they do someting about the rasp of an action they have. This particular gun has a FN Sporting Mauser style stock. I bet based on what I see that this is likely a very sweet shooting rifle and felt recoil will be way way less than any Ruger. And with the provision that it feeds it likely wiil be a very smooth action. | |||
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Simple, this rifle is not a particularly well put together example. As I said, being a Mauser man myself I would simply build one for that price, but then again, I can. For what the asking price is and what a new Ruger runs, in this case, if I had no other choice, I'd buy the Ruger. I'm not much of a Ruger 77 fan but neither am I a fan of spending $1000 on a mundane Mauser and then having to invest god knows how much time and effort into it just to make it right. And, personally, I cannot abide mis-drilled holes. As I've already pointed out, the rear bridge hole are poorly located. Why would I or anyone want to buy a rifle with incorrectly located holes? If they are off, what else is? The receiver ring was surface ground but not stoned or polished smooth. You can see the grind marks running fore and aft along the receiver ring. As I say, this makes me wonder where else shortcuts were taken. And of course, I haven't mentioned the stock at all. If this were offered at half the price, I would consider it a possibility. But I would never invest that kind of money into an iffy proposition when I can buy better rifles, new or used, for less. Not too long ago I came accross a very nice Husqvarna 246 in 9,2x62. Asking price was $700. A much better rifle and all it needed to be comparable was drilling and tapping and a scope friendly bolt handle. Of course, that's just my perspective. When it's your money, you can do what you want. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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For me, a 9.3X62 needs to be on a M98 action. That said, I don't care for the stock on this rifle and I trust Mike's opinion about the rear scope mount holes. I would keep shopping. A nice 9.3X62 Mauser will come along or I might just have one built. That's what I did. Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Too many unknowns. I have located a Husqvarna large ring 98 in 9.3x62mm for 1/3 the price. It will need to have the bolt handle altered for a scope and drilled and tapped and a Buehler safety or Model 70 style safety installed but at least I can have it done right and still be into it for less money. | |||
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I would like to have it but I would probably only be able to sell it for around 500-600.00. The scope base holes being of primary concern. You can borrow money, but you can't borrow time. Don't wait, go now. Savannah Safaris Namibia Otjitambi Trails & Safaris DRSS NRA SCI DSC TSRA TMPA | |||
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A Husqvarna at 1/3 the price is an absolute steal! It would be criminal NOT to buy it! IMHO, this is a much better option. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Personally I think its a better rifle than some are giving it credit for...I think its worth $1000 in a heart beat.. The metal work is excellent, and with expensive sights, the action is either surface ground or professionall polished, and the blue appears to be a true rust blue with the barrel a slightly different color that looks very nice but probably wouldn't take the blue the action did. I don't see any bad inletting, thats BS. there is a tad of shrinkage that can be fixed in about 30 minutes..The wood is very decent beautiful dark red I believe to be claro, and the very clean excellent checkering job alone would cost you $350. with those fully mullard borders. The cross bolts could be replaced for little or nothing. As far as the rear bridge holes all one would have to do is make a custom bases or cut the corner off to match the contour of the action and one would be as good as the other. I have seen this before and holes in those positions are for a specific base and I don't remember which one, but I bet you could look around and find the original base as it was a common make, maybe a short Weaver.... I would prefer to know the barrel maker, how it shoots if possible, maybe try it out on the range if possible, but if not then I'd risk it... Its a pretty darn nice old rifle..If I wanted a 9.3x62 then I would buy it. It would cost you much more than a grand to build one just like it with todays costs... An old Huskys, 1930 to 1935 like you describe are darn nice rifles, but the cost of a new bolt handle installed, drill and tap, trigger and safety will run it up there pretty quick.. Check it for wood rot and cracks in the action inletting, those old good Huskys often need repair and glass bedding, and the stocks are often as not Birch. Cleaned up they are hard to beat. If you don't want the rifle then send me an email to ray@atkinsonhunting.com and give me the store tel number or email if you don't mind. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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The barrel was rust blued but not sure of the action. There are no maker marks on the barrel and the only markings are the German ones on the action. The owner has not removed it from the stock so the maker could be under the barrel. It went to Africa twice with the owners brother and shot well and he said with mild recoil. Tough choices | |||
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Misplaced holes in the rear bridge is no big train smash at all, I have many an old gun with way worse, weld em shut and redo, wont even know they were there. If that gun is a shooter I would have no problem picking it up for that price. The look and the "feel" that I get with that stock has my attention. | |||
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Alf, You would only need to cut about 100 or 200 thousand off the corner of the rear base to match the contour of the rear ring..that can be done with a file in about 45 minutes..I have done that on many rifles including some factoryh rifles with Talley bases. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Good thread, very interesting reactions, etc. I think you want the gun. Seems the question of the rear base holes, if a problem, is reconciled easily enough. Stock is a maybe, throughout the thread. Offer the guy 750, bring it to 8 or higher if need be, if you want the rifle. Because you want it. It's only money. What's a two-three hundred dollar error amortized over a lifetime, if it's an error? You can always sell it off and get some/most of your money back. Of course, this only applies if it's not a business deal. That's what I'd do, but I'm a romantic. | |||
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The 246 had a walnut stock. The costs to do the mods would still result in a rifle that cost a lot less than the rifle in the OP. Then again, you know that and that is why you want the telephone #. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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While it is true that welding the holes up is not a huge deal, it is also not inexpensive, when you consider that you have to have it drilled & tapped, and of course, the receiver would need to be blued again after the weldig & filing. While off kilter holes may not bother you, they bother me enormously. If I come accross a receiver suitable for building on with a buggered hole, then it is no big deal since I will be polishing & bluing it anyway. I come accross this quite often when building a rifle off the old FN actioned JC Higgins rifles. 3 out of four have an extra hole in the rear bridge but the selling price is usually reflective of that. Again, your money, you do what you want. But I feel that there are more issues to contend with on this rifle than worth. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I agree with most of what Ray said. that rifle has many neat features. I would not hesitate to pay $1000. Husky - beware of the tang area cracks in the stock. The comb may be too low & thin and may boot your teeth out in 5 shots. If the stock does not fit you, you will need a new stock. I have owned a 9.3X57 M98 Hasquvarna and now I own a Simson M98 9.3X62. The first one had a thin stock with too much drop at comb / heel and it kicked terribly. The Simson was in rough external condition and needed restoring. You can see photos of my Simson if you check back on my old post. That rifle with new stock work, semi inletted blank, bolt work, rust bluing, cleaning up the external rust , pits, adding scope mounts etc. cost me US$650 + $500 for the rifle. (Total NZ $ 1550). At todays exchange rate that is US$1150. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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z1r It is not that off kilter drilled mount holes do not bother me, it is more a case of looking past some fixable flaws in lieu of passing up on a otherwise good rifle. I have acquired many an old Mauser butchered by unthinking owners and hack gunsmiths, sent them off for a bit of refurbishing and now I have very good, workable guns. | |||
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