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I’m beginning to plan my next rifle buy and what I need is an All-Around rifle to cover the gab between my 25-06 rem and .338 wim mag. I’ve been looking at Sauer 202 but can’t decide what caliber to get. I’m thinking something from 27-30 cal.?
This rifle will be my Nr. 1 hunting rifle but also needs to be a good back up rifle for my 25-06 and 338 wim mag.

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If you want something that can do it all with readily available ammunition, excellent accuracy potential and reasonable recoil, then get a 30/06 or a 308 Winchester. The 30/06 will push bullets in the 180 to 220 grain range a little faster than the 308.

If you want something a bit more exotic with longer range potential, the 300 Weatherby Magnum or the 300 Winchester Magnum would be good choices.

Another excellent long range performer with excellent accuracy potential, reasonable recoil and readily available ammunition would be the 7mm Remington Magnum.
 
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I believe the 7mm Rem Mag to be the best "all-around" cartidge in that caliber range.

The 7RM is a very versatile cartridge that gives plenty of power for big game, good trajectory, a wide range of bullets available, easy to find factory ammo, easy to find components for reloading, mild recoil, etc etc....

Can't go wrong with the 7RM

Good Luck

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Depending on the distances you plan to shoot I would go with either a 308 or a 300 Win Mag.


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I agree with Reloader. The old reliable 7mm Remington Mag is REAL hard to beat.


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That seems to be the standard answer here... Either the 7mm mag or the '06... Can't go wrong with either....

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270, 270, 270.

Did I say 270?


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The 30-06 is MUCH more versatile than the 7mm Mag. hammering


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get an -06


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Ingvar,
It is not the "Sexiest" choice, but the 30-06 will do a good job on anything, anywhere. What more can you ask for?
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any of the following would fit or desire perfect.

.270 Win
.280 Rem
.308
30-06
7mm Rem Mag

Much smaller and you start loosing the ability to adequately backup for elk. Much bigger and you start getting too close in power to the .338.

Pick the one that most gets your juices flowing.

Just my opinion.
 
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284 winchester in a light rifle, would make the perfect carry anywhere rifle.

The 280 remington would be my next choice as I recon 7mm (.284) is mid way between the 25-06 and the 338 win mag.
 
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Ingvar,
you have a 25 cal. on a 06 brass, the .30-06 would be a strong candidate. Be lots of 06 brass for either calibers for reloading. Bullets weights up to 240 grain in the .30 cal.
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8x57. JMO, Dutch.


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.416 Rem. You'd have the perfect spread.
 
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06 or 300 weatherby.


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30-06


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Best bet go up like MTM posted:

.25-06 Remington
.338 Winchester Magnum
.416 Remington or .416 Rigby or .416 Weatherby

If staying with your original plan then 7 mm STW
 
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The 7 Mag fits into his caliber spectrum better than anything, IMO. I certainly see no reason for a .300 Mag when he already owns a .338. You're never wrong with a .30-06, but if you need more bullet weight than a 175 grain s7mm, you get out the .338.


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.270 .280 7mag 30,06 .308 7mm08 7x57, 6.5 swede .260. But the 1st 4 make the most sence to me...tj3006


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The .270 is too close to the .25-06 to me. The 30-06 is a natural but soooo boring. The .280 is a good tweener, but a .300wsm probably makes sense. bewildered


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The choice is as obvious as the nose on your face, 30/06!.
Your 25/06 is great for Deer, Antelope, coyotes etc. Your .338 is great for Elk,Moose and the big bears. You really need a 30/06 for your normal Deer, Elk, Antelope, Moose, Black Bear rifle.
I have lots of suitable rifles for all kinds of game but my most used rifle is my 30/06 with 180 grain bullets I've taken Deer (3 varieties), Elk (2 varieties), Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mountain Goats, Coyotes, Marmots, Ravens and on and on. 30/06 is versatile and deadly.
 
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If you don't want a 30 cal. then take a look at a 7mm/08 or 7 X 57. While not "magnums" still very adequate 7mm's. Don't know that you need a magnum to fill the gap? I have a .270WSM and that would also fill the bill. (Not MY .270 WSM) you would have to get your own!!

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Hey Ingvar

No doubt, the 30-06. It is perfect between the 25-06 and the 338. It shoots just the right range of bullets to fill the gap, 165 gr, 180 gr and 200 gr. Take the 25-06 and 30-06 loaded with 165 gr Antelope hunting. Take the 338 and the 30-06 loaded with 200 gr Accubonds Elk or Bear hunting.

The perfect back-up gun!


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I have had great luck with the 7x57 on mule deer and elk. My vote goes for it, the .280 or the 7x64.
 
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The 30-06 is a good choice. It can shoot a wide range of different weight bullets. Depending on the twist of the rifling it handles some better than others.

I fine the 30-06 and some of the 30-06 advocates boring.

The middle of the road here is the 7mm magnums.

By the way I have owned a 30-06 and reload ammunition for a friend’s 06.
 
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something from 27-30 cal.?
This rifle will be my Nr. 1 hunting rifle but also needs to be a good back up rifle for my 25-06 and 338 wim mag


Well it appears that you may not be set on something between 27-30 cal. So how about a 9.3x62? Deadly out to ranges I am able to shoot. You may not need the 338.
 
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What 54 jnoll said. Sums it up.
 
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Any of the 7mm Rem. Mag. or .270 Win. or .30-06 or even the .308 Win. would fill that gap nicely.


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Get a 270 and trade the 25-06 for a 223... you'll have the perfect three rifle battery.
 
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Put me down in the 30/06 column...

Brad above does some good advice....

But the 06 will really fill the uses of both your 25/06 and your 338 Mag...
 
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30-06. Preferably a Husqvarna.
 
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Go for a 7x64 if you intend to hunt Europe as well. Handles a 175gn bullet well.


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Brad that’s good advice but already have a 223. My current rifle battery is:
22 LR
223 rem
25-06 rem
338 win mag

There is a gab that I really need to close ! Big Grin

How does this 5 centerfire rifle battery look like to you? Does it make sense?

223 rem
25-06 rem
30-06
338 win mag
416 rem mag
 
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Originally posted by Ingvar J. Kristjansson:
Brad that’s good advice but already have a 223. My current rifle battery is:
22 LR
223 rem
25-06 rem
338 win mag


There is a gab that I really need to close ! Big Grin

How does this 5 centerfire rifle battery look like to you? Does it make sense?

223 rem
25-06 rem
30-06
338 win mag
416 rem mag


Sound good to me mate. Go for it.!!
 
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.280 Rem would be my choice.


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If you want something that can do it all with readily available ammunition, excellent accuracy potential and reasonable recoil, then get a 30/06 or a 308 Winchester. The 30/06 will push bullets in the 180 to 220 grain range a little faster than the 308.

If you want something a bit more exotic with longer range potential, the 300 Weatherby Magnum or the 300 Winchester Magnum would be good choices.

Another excellent long range performer with excellent accuracy potential, reasonable recoil and readily available ammunition would be the 7mm Remington Magnum.


I basically agree with this. But when I reach for my own best all-round rifle, it turns out to be my old Ruger No.1B in 7mm Rem. Mag. every time.


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A rifle Caliber between the 338 and the 25-06 would be the 7mm Mag or the 30/06. The 7mm can not push the big bullets 200, & 220 but the 30/06 can. And the 7mm can push with alot of FPS
So it your choise. Maybe a 300.
 
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My vote goes to the 30-06


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