Got the need Rifleshooter mag today. There's an article on Dangerous game: Big Cats, Bears, etc (other than the normal DG stuff). Article is by Craig Boddington. Talked about leopards, lions, griz, polar, browns, etc. I was sort of insensed that he didn't mention the 9.3X62 when he spoke of the leopards/lions. I was under the impression that Otto B created the round/rifle to handle just that....I believe I remember someone on this list also say that the 9.3's nickname in Africa is "Lion Killer". He didn't mention a single metric round...It was an OK read anyway. BobG in VA

LOL, Shrps, Boddington wasn't paid to mention metrics, say no more. I happen to love the 9.3x62mm, and I'm a Texan !!!!!

LLS

It truly seems he loves all 'american' but not european designs, but he DOES rave about one metric, american born......8mm Rem Mag.

I would hate to think he might own a foreign brand car/truck. Surely not.

Nothing wrong with being pro-american, but there are many fine guns and rounds from abroad. They are no fools in design and quality.

Heck it took US almost 100 years to 'mimic' the 6.5x55 and 7x57 with the 260 and 708.

Love them in short actions, but disregarding that, the longer necks and done in properly throated rifles allows the older rounds more flexibility with good accuracy, the x55 more so in my opinion, easier with factory brass anyway than the 260 (no slouch either, but sometimes a little fickle).

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Heck it took US almost 100 years to 'mimic' the 6.5x55 and 7x57 with the 260 and 708.

Well said, with a good dose of humour. And the owners of European designed rifles still would not swop them for the newer American versions, as they can essentially shoot heavier bullets.

Shooting a 7x57 mm with a 175 gr Swift A-Frame bullet is a magic combo. Gunwriters were responsible in focusing the attention on faster and "better" calibers over the years which lead to the demise of the 7 mm Mauser. The adage was ... it shoots faster and hit harder at all ranges. Forgetting that bullet performance was actually more important, as high velocity is self-destructive on Soft bullets. I cannot think about a more versatile caliber for meduim game hunting. One can drop down to a 110 gr Impala bullet and achieve 3,000 fps if your terrain calls for it where you have to shoot springbuck at 300 yds. Plenty bullet weights are available - 120 gr, 130 gr, 140 gr, 150 gr, 160 gr; 170 gr; 175 gr and even some odd weights in between.

Warrior

Well, I do remember a recent article by Boddington on the 7x57 and there is a a good archived article on the Rifleshooter website named Marvelous Metrics. Marvelous metrics is about the 9.3x74, 9.3x62, and 9.3x64. I always loved the 9.3x64 Brenneke. Though obscure, it seems a perfectly sensible cartridge to me. I am chomping at the bit at the moment. My 350RM should be in this week

I missed those 'metric' articles in the past.

On the 350, owned some, they hit hard, and not everyone in the woods has one, rarely ever seen, most people don't know what they are, the average guy who never comes to AR.

Let us know how the 350 shoots. Easy to load.

Please remember that it's an article, not a book. And also that it's an article for an American audience.

Metrics have never caught fire here - even though many metric calibers are superbly designed and equal to or better than American or British designs.

In an article like this one, CB needs to pay attention to what his editor and the audience want - and not everything can be covered.

CB devoted an entire chapter to metric calibers in his excellent book, Safari Rifles, and he praised the 9.3x62mm in particular.

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Originally posted by mrlexma:
Please remember that it's an article, not a book. And also that it's an article for an American audience.

Metrics have never caught fire here - even though many metric calibers are superbly designed and equal to or better than American or British designs.

In an article like this one, CB needs to pay attention to what his editor and the audience want - and not everything can be covered.

CB devoted an entire chapter to metric calibers in his excellent book, Safari Rifles, and he praised the 9.3x62mm in particular.

Valid points.

I agree that he didn't write about them because (except for 7mm), very few Americans care about them. Boddington has an online article about the 9.3s in the archives of one of the gun rags and had high praises for them, especially the x62. There are immensily popular sports in other parts of the world that barley get mentioned on ESPN.

-Lou

Whats in a name? there are plenty of good rifles both Metric and real rifles. I never had any use for the metric because there are rifles just as good or better right here at home. Would a lion know the difference between a 9.3 and a 340 Weatherby? I doubt it.

Just for reference in case anyone wants to read it that hasn't:

A Most Marvelous Metric
The 9.3mm holds the light heavyweight crown among European bore sizes and should be more popular stateside than it is.
by Craig Boddington


-Bob F.

I will post some pics of my new 350 and hopefully some good groups as soon as I get it home.