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Anyone try any 250 gr loads with RL-16 and the 358 Norma? Looks like it may be the optimal powder. Varget and Norma 203B are a bit fast. H4350 is a bit slower (and hard to get). "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | ||
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Austin I haven't tried RL16 yet because I have not seen any for sale. I have used RL 17 in the 358 Norma and the 9.3x64 (very similar cartridges).Burning speed of RL16 is supposed to be very similar to RL 17. IMR 4007 is also very good in the 358 N & 9.3x64 | |||
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IMR 4007 has been discontinued.  analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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Are powders like RL16 and RL23 simply a version of RL17 & RL22 that are supposed to be less temp sensitive? I see they really sell the non-sensitive issue. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I believe that is the purpose of 16/23. I have tried some R23 and like it in the 300 win and 270. What I also like about R23 is its $6 less in price than R22. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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My supply of H4350 is running low. I plan on testing IMR 4451. When I saw this post I ordered 2 lb's of Reloder 16 from Midsouth Shooters Supply. Now I'll test both powders. What I need are starting loads for each powder. Jim | |||
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That;s where I got my powder as well. want to try for my friends 30-06 that I load for him. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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Im not finished working with RL-17 yet, and its a sho nuff good powder in most everything so far, fast and mild of pressure it appears.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Started testing using Reloder 16. Cases: Norma Primer: Federal #215 Bullet: Hornady Interlock 250 GR RN Average velocity for 5 rounds. 65 gr = 2401 66 gr = 2458 67 gr = 2492 68 gr = 2528 No signs of pressure. Accuracy looks good. Will continue testing. Jim | |||
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Good start. I'm interested in the results. Pretty sure you can stuff as much RL-16 in a 250 gr 358 Norma as you want without any pressure issues. It's slightly faster than 17. Max for H4350 is 75 gr for a 250 gr. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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RL16 is a temp stable RL15 not RL17. Loads should be close, RL23 vs 22 looks like a very slight velocity bump, but who knows if that is the powder or testing conditions If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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The following loads were copied from Alliant Powder Reload Recipes. It looks like RL16 is closer to RL17 than RL15. --------- 30-06 ---------- Bullet RL15 RL16 RL17 150 gr 52 58 58 ----- 300 Win Mag -------- Bullet RL15 RL16 RL17 150 gr 64 72.9 74 165 gr 60 71.1 72.5 Jim | |||
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358 Norma Magnum FN Mauser Custom 26" Barrel Brass: Norma Bullet: Hornady 250 gr RN Primers: Federal #215 Powder: RL16 69 gr AV: 2553 ES: 20 SD: 7.0 70 gr AV: 2602 ES: 26 SD: 8.0 71 gr AV: 2651 ES: 22 SD: 8.0 72 gr AV: 2702 ES: 15 SD: 5.0 Jim | |||
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Looking good. Any pressure signs? I think 100% load would be around 75 gr for RL-16 and 250 gr? "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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No pressure signs yet. Jim | |||
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358 Norma Magnum FN Mauser Custom 26" Barrel Brass: Norma Bullet: Nosler 250 gr Spitzer Partition Primers: Federal #215 Velocity @ 15' from muzzle Powder: RL16 72 gr AV: 2722 ES: 23 SD: 8.0 73 gr AV: 2757 ES: 55 SD: 17.5 74 gr AV: 2775 ES: 17 SD: 4 75 gr AV: 2796 ES: 16 SD: 4 Jim | |||
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Looks like you still have a little room, in that you normally get a big velocity boost just about the same time you get to real world max..an its time to back off a tad..but only you can determine that as I don't know where your pressure signs are other than a normal increase of velocity on your last two loads.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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No '16 AH, but N-204 goes in my 98 Mauser 358 NM, 250 gr Partitions at an easy and accurate 2800 fps, I'd swear that powder was made for the 358 Norma ;]  | |||
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