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Yes,trying a nice Sako 85 with the Laminated Stock and all Stainless Metalwork...Never had a 300 WSM,but like the ballistics and the cool lookn Wincester short n stubby nickel cases!  150s at 3300 fps (or the 130s at 3500)allows very lil holdover for those 400+ shots  ...A matching Zeiss 6-20x50mm Stainless should match well and at least look good!So guys,any stories/loads of your 300 WSM? (Yes,I know its a "Stunted"300WM  )PS.I am having another one built with a Stiller Action and 25"Fluted SS #5 Rock Creek for a one holer!)  "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | ||
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Love mine, it went on my last safari and is going on my next. The thing I like the most about the 300wsm is the compact guns it comes in. | |||
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You know I never wanted a magnum caliber having shot .308s for ever but I drank the koolaid and have become a wsm fan. Got a couple m70s, 11 to be exact and 3 are wsms. One is a GAP all tricked out with a #7 Bartlein barrel Manners carbon fiber stock and I know it's not a WM but it ain't bad. | |||
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Safarikid, I don't think you can go wrong with the 300 wsm in a Sako. Course, truth be known owning about 16 or so sakos, I don't hardly think you can go wrong with just about any chambering in a Sako (other than the 338 federal). Here's my favorite 300 WSM. Its a Winchester 70 supergrade. I bought it as it sits from a gunsmith friend of mine about 7 years ago. He provided me with 20 loaded rounds. To date, if I remember correctly, I've shot it 28 times. Twice to check zero right after I bought it, and made 26 one shot kills on white-tails, hogs and turkey. GWB  | |||
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I picked up a Browning 300wsm about 02, and it accounted for kills on everything I pointed at! I am a big fan, and I really regret selling that rifle. I almost picked up another one recently but seeing as I have the 300wby now I guess I just didn't need it. Plus, I just sold all my ammo to JudgeG lol. For someone looking for a new gun, its a great choice. No real difference between my wsm and my bro's win mag side by side shooting, it was a personal preference. You made a good choice on the Sako! I never had the chance to reload for it, but from what I have gathered about all of Winchester's stubby lines is its a good idea to FL each reloading vs neck sizing. I'll get another WSM, but I think it'll be in 7mm flavor. If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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First off let me say I like the short mags, especially the 300 and 270 versions. The Sako is a great rig, I have several. The only thing I will say is that I have found that you need less than full house loads often to find the accuracy node, I know others with the same rifles that have experienced the same. Regardless of that fact, I can tell you from having shot several 300 WSM's from other mfgs as well, the velocities you stated are pretty optimistic. I think about 150 to 200 fps less is doable, and I do have one that gives me about 3200 with 150's, but it is right on the edge of pressure envelopes to get that. Your custom rig sounds like a neat project! It should be awesome! The compact rifle is nice IMO, and the Sako feeds great IME. I think you will be well pleased, and the 30 cal is a great effective killing rig for a wide variety of game. Let us know how you do with it! | |||
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Overall I am a long action fan but do have a few 300wsm and a 270wsm. Both calibers have been great shooters for me. All my WSM's are SS from Savage. Had them trued and recrowned and they all shoot fantastic -- all sub MOA by far. I'm shooting 150, 165, 168, 175, and 180 in the 300WSM and 130, 140 in the 270WSM. I'm interested in hearing about how you like your Stiller action? I have a few Predator actions from Stiller on order. Please do tell! | |||
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Fish, +1 on what you said. 3250 fps with 150 grainers is about tops according to my chrono. I've backed off. Don't wanna have a pressure problem. Most stuff I shoot is 200 yds and under, so no problem with trajectory at 3100 fps. Plus, blood shot meat is less a problem at lower velocity. GWB | |||
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300 WSM is a great round. Ballistically equal to the 300 Win Mag (and before the arguments start about the performance of 1 particular rifle go check the average in the reloading manuals but first throw out the highs and the lows), there is less tahn 30 fps difference between the 2. The 300 WSM does it with about 7% less powder in a shorter action which is inherently stiffer and more accurate. Cartridge headspaces on a nice should intead of a belt also. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Posted 3 Jan, 9:29 PM Hide Post 300 WSM is a great round. Ballistically equal to the 300 Win Mag (and before the arguments start about the performance of 1 particular rifle go check the average in the reloading manuals but first throw out the highs and the lows), there is less tahn 30 fps difference between the 2. The 300 WSM does it with about 7% less powder in a shorter action which is inherently stiffer and more accurate. Cartridge headspaces on a nice should intead of a belt also. Mike I like that!Glad I got it as I never had one...almost did the 270wsm,but the bullet selection IF I reload is better with the 300WSM and it pushes the 150s the same speed as the 270WSM pushes the 130s! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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I've got a Model 75 Finnlight that absolutely loves Federal Premium 180 TSX bullets. I tried the Federal 180 Accubond loads and had trouble opening the bolt after firing. Showed definite pressure signs but Federal said ammo was OK. Go figure! I just upgraded my scope to a Nightforce 2.5x10x32. It is my go to gun! | |||
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Mine is in a long-action MRC M1999. I have shot some nice groups (just under 1/2 moa at 300 yards) using 65 grains of RL-22 under 180-grain Sierra MatchKings seated a red hair of the lands. I use whatever magnum primer I can find-- doesn't seem to matter when the bullet hits the paper. Chamber is pure SAAMI. Brass is bagged Winchester, prepped all the way down to chamfering the inside of the primer hole... | |||
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Wow, nice to see someone has bought something new since the 30-06 came out! I have A HS Precision PHL in 300 WSM, 22 inch barrel. Current favorite load is 64 grains Rl-17, 180 grain Nosler E-Tip, Federal 215 primers. Light, compact and easy to handle. | |||
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Congrats.The 300WSM is an awesome round.I shoot 165gr bullets out of mine using 69.0grs of Winchester WXR or Reloader-22.Another load that is almost as good is 65.0grs of IMR-4350.  300WSM Group | |||
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I loved my Sako m75 Greywolf 300WSM-I bought it used in mint condition the year before. Sold it last spring to a buddy in our moose hunting group that wanted to upgrade from a 30-06. Shot factory WS 180gr Accubonds well under an inch with reloads under 0.5". Used Retumbo, H1000 and WS 780 for powders. IMO stick with 180gr..but thats me. Had my Sako m75ss 300WM I bought new in 1997 and kept that one instead. Bought a new Sako m75 Greywolf 25-06 last May, replaced with new barrel and made a 338-06 Ackley Improved. Sakos all the way for me...but I dont mind my two Tikka T3 LS 270WSM's either. | |||
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Win accubonds were fine in my rifle, the federals were a bit sticky. Same with my brothers 300win w/180 accubonds from federal. My thinking is it had to do something with how they load and that particular bullet perhaps needing a lighter charge....could be something about the shape or bearing surface that causes pressure spikes. If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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Hey Guys,I KNOW you will think I am CRAZY (I am!  ),but I decided to skip the Sako I already bought as my Stiller Custom will be ready in 10 days!(Didnt expect that)  ...So,the Sako 85 Lamintated Grey Wolf Stainless 300WSM is for sale..Mint in box(was fired 2 box,3/4" with 180 Accubond factory)No rings,but I do have a NIB Zeiss 6.5-20x50 Matte for it too...$1250 for rifle and $750 for scope shipped!Email me direct if interested,will go on Classifieds later tonight...  "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Hey GW, Did it kill that turkey??  My new Savage 300 WSM is coming today while I am going be in Menard, Texas hunting deer with you! I am off to Menard........ I am initially loading 165 gr. TSX's in mine with Hybrid 100v. Bob There is room for all of God's creatures....right next to the mashed potatoes. http://texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/   | |||
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I have a Remington model 7 CDL in 300 WSM its a great gun to carry all day and very accurate with Federal 180 grain Accubonds | |||
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I like the 300 wsm. I have a 700 CDL, which I don't like, but agree with the positive comments here about the cartridge. | |||
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My model 70 is accurate, compact and has sufficient horsepower to take on anything in North America. Whats not to like? If you start to think about reloading, RL 17 was made for this cartridge. Use magnum primers. Cliff NRA Life Member CMP Distinguished Rifleman NRA Master, Short and Long Range | |||
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I have two Model 70 Winchesters in 300 WSM. I love them, accurate, hit well. Only thing I don't like about the WSM cases is trying to reload the mag, being used to 243 and 30.06 I tend to push down on the shoulder and so they don't always go in straight the first time. | |||
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I built a 300WSM on a Savage 10 action some years ago for use with the Berger 210 gr VLD. Never killed anyting but 3/4" avery dots but it killt them good.   ****************** "Policies making areas "gun free" provide a sense of safety to those who engage in magical thinking..." Glenn Harlan Reynolds | |||
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The 300 WSM is ballistically SIMILAR to the 300 Win, but it is ballistically IDENTICAL to the 300 H&H when loaded to the same pressures, as they have the same case capacity. Nosler uses the 308 win and 300 WSM to test their 30 cal bullets for accuracy at moderate and magnum velocities respectively. What does that tell you about what Nosler thinks of these two cartridges? Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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I like the wsm as well. Shot a whitetail doe this last fall with my wifes 300 WSM. Nice light package and easy to shoot. I wont try to make it reach 300 win mag level because it just cant but its nice anyways. I have always been able to get 3100 with a 180 in a 300 win mag but not in the WSM. My 180 MRX in the WSM go 2980. I did read 3300 on my chrony with the 150 Ballistic Silvertip Win factory ammo in the WSM. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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Re what Nosler thinks of the two cartridges... That they have a short action length pressure gun? Funny me, I always thought it was the individual rifle that was accurate, not the cartridge. | |||
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If that were the case, then rounds like the 222 rem and 6x47 would still be king in the benchrest rest circuit. The junior Mr. Nosler was quoted as believing these two rounds (308win and 300WSM) were the most accurate at their given velocities. However, I tend to agree with you for the most part, especially with regard to factory hunting rifles. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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Should be a great rifle. I'd get it coated with the matte black baked on Teflon coating like Nylite personally. Matches well with most brands of matt finish scopes too. | |||
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