My Dad and I went to a local pawn-shop yesterday, and they had an old mauser that had been turned in to a double trigger sporter. It was really beat up and it was cheap so we got it for the triggers(will be a donor gun for a 1909 Argentine build). It seems like it might be a guild gun but i don't know for sure. I was wondering if any body has any idea where it originally came from who or what guild made it. Any info will be helpful. It is chamberd in 8mm mauser

Thanks,

Jonathan















I don't know what this symbol is but it shows up everywhere in the gun. It is on almost all the parts.

First of all welcome. I believe you are on the right track in researching this rifle before you take out the hack-saw.

It looks at first like a small front ring, large thread 98 action, the bolt shroud also looks 98 / it might be a 93 to 96 depending on the spacing of the action screws. Is there a 3rd locking lug on the bolt, that is a major give away.

What is puzzling is I don't think I see a extraction cam on the rear receiver ring as on a "normal" 98.

If 98 in length then, I know there was a transitional 97?

Perhaps someone more knowing will chime in. FWIW --- John303

I'll admit that I don't know much about the history of the Mauser guild guns but believe I have one. All of the ones I'm aware of have a new stock, while yours appears to have a modified infantry stock? I've never seen one with all the holes on the side like that and they were probably added by a bubba.

Mine is a SR/LT Danzig action with double triggers and original stepped 8mm barrel. The last three digits of the serial number are on every part. The bolt handle is changed and claw type mounts and scope added. The scope mounts and shroud were color case hardened, but there isn't much color left. Here is a picture of mine.

Thanks for the welcome John303. Now that i look at the picks again it is strange that the extaction cam dissapers in the pic. It is alot easier to see in this pic



It does have a 3rd lug, here is a pic of it.



gzig5 That mauser is gorgeous!

If anybody needs a pic of a certain part or area that might shed some more light on the origins of the gun just ask and I will snap a pic.

Thanks,

Jonathan

Well Jonathan; Chances are you'll never know the maker unless one in particular used that style of stock. I have a rifle / two made by an unknown makers so I believe it is not unusual in that respect. But no doubt it is Germanic in style.

Personally I would attempt to salvage the old girl with perhaps finding a receiver a front sight etc. not so messed up. Any standard length 98 would suffice.

Take care --- John303.

Crown R proof is Liege, but I don't know if that is an R.

Judging from the recess under the bolt handle and the location of the rear sling swivel, I would think the stock is converted military. It appears to have been cut on the left side for whatever gigantic scope mount base was installed using the four holes in the receiver, none of which appears to be in an area which would weaken the action. The holes need to be plugged, however, if only to improve the looks of the rifle.

I can't tell if the marks on the trigger guard are engraving or pitting.

A small ring 98 could be an Erfurt and would make up into a nice featherweight hunting rifle in a caliber like 7X57. I have a G33/40 actioned rifle in that caliber and it's one of my favorites.

After further research I have found out it was a pre 1917 Erfurt kar 98 in its former life. I do like the 7X57 idea. I have a Ruger No1 in 7X57 with the mannlicher stock and it is a dream. Another 7mm would be cool.