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powder for .338
15 September 2009, 21:27
ledvmpowder for .338
I am just fixing to start loading for a .338 W M. Was planning on 250 gr Nosler Partitions (unless somebody talks me into something else). What are the favorite powders out there for this cal. with 250's?
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15 September 2009, 21:30
Terry BlauwkampH 4831 SC or Rel 22
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15 September 2009, 22:04
cobraI get the best accuracy with RL19 and Swift A-Frames.
15 September 2009, 22:17
Dr. LouRL 19 with 210 Partitions and 200 NBTs. Lou
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15 September 2009, 22:21
kreytenAnother vote for RL-19...73 grs under a speer 250 gr GS is sub moa in my son's vanguard.
Good luck! I found the 338 really easy to work up.
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15 September 2009, 22:47
hm1996quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
RL 19 with 210 Partitions and 200 NBTs. Lou
These components were made for each other in the .338!
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15 September 2009, 22:49
eezridrRL 19
15 September 2009, 23:06
TJAYMy 250 Nosler partition load is 75 gr. Rl-22 WW This is a 2750 FPS load and 3/4 to 1" groups. I also shoot 225's with Rl-19. The TSX is my Favorite 225 bullet.
15 September 2009, 23:10
TJAYOk, I'll try again..
My 250 Partition load is.
75 gr. RL-22 WW cases Fed. 215 primers.
2750 fps 3/4 to 1 inch groups.
15 September 2009, 23:18
muygrandeMine seems to like the H4350 w/225 TSX at about the 68-70 gr level. Fed 215 primers.
Ya'll think the H4350 is too fast for the 338 Mag?
15 September 2009, 23:20
fredj338H4350, RL19 or IMR4831. All perform well dependign on bullet. I lean to IMR4831 for best accuracy in my 338 w/ heavier bullets & H4350 for 210-225gr.
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16 September 2009, 03:24
ledvmWell...what is the best weight of bullet in the .338 WM for heavy game (elk, Lion, African Plains, and maybe grizzly).
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
16 September 2009, 03:41
Allan DeGrootIn a 338Mag if you cannot do anything you need to do with either RL19 or IMR4350 it probably isn't worth doing.
As for the 250's? since there isn't anything in North America you can't kill with a 225gr bullet from a rifle in that chambering I don't see the point in 250's.
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16 September 2009, 03:48
p dog shooterI got the best results out of mine with H4831.
16 September 2009, 04:16
ledvmWhat is a good starting place then for R-19 and a 225 gr Barnes TSX?
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
16 September 2009, 04:35
buckeyeshooterAnother person who uses H4831 (72 grains) with a 250 grain bullet.
16 September 2009, 05:34
dwheelsMine likes both RL 19 and H4350. Its favorite and mine is 70 grains of H4350 under a 210 grain TSX. There is so little difference between the 210 and the 225's I opt for a little more velocity and flatter trajectory. I was told by Ty at Barnes that the 210 only lacks a couple of inches of penetration compared to the 225's and I don't have any grizzleys to hunt where I am. Soooo, 210s it is. DW
16 September 2009, 07:23
Thomas JonesMy old .338 win seemed to like RL-19 with 225s and 250s. But It never shot real well with either to be honest. That was a model 70 clasic.
My new one, a Ruger hawkeye Likes RL-19 real well, but it loves VIT-N160 with 200 and 225 grain nosler acubonds.
Startelingly acurate with the 225.
I just got some 250 grain accubonds but probably will not shoot them for awhile, as a 200 or 225 grainer should be more than enough for elk.
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16 September 2009, 07:35
CamdogIMR 4350 with 225 TSX has been lights out for me. In my rifle, it performed quite a bit better the RL-19. Of course, each rifle is different.
16 September 2009, 08:32
garydnNorma MRP was my favorite in the 338win. the more you pushed it the better the groups,at book max they were good above book max they were even better.
16 September 2009, 17:18
jro45I use RL25 in my 338 RUM. It gives me maximun penitration.
For the 250gr bullet I get 2975 FPS with this powder
17 September 2009, 01:32
TJAYledvm.
My 225TSX load is 75 grns. R-19. I started at 70 and worked up. The rifle is a Tikka T-3 Lite SS, I also had worked up to that in a Ruger 77 tange safety . Both rifles shot it well..
17 September 2009, 12:26
KabluewyI finally settled on IMR 4350, and I don't bother to experiment with other powder anymore. Admitted, this is partially because I have lots of that powder, but also because it works so well. I think H4350 would be just as good, and maybe others too, but I get such good results with IMR 4350, that I think I would just be wasting powder to experiment further. 225 gr bullets are all that's needed in North America, IMO.
The good thing is that the 338 WM is rather versitle in its use and in the varity of good loads. Generally all powder in the burn rate of moderately slow to slow, and bullets from 200 to 275 gr will work well in the right combo.
There are actually too many choices for me to deal with. A happy hand loader could burn a lot of powder testing all the variables, just shooting one bullet weight. So I have just narrowed it down a bit by choosing 225 gr and IMR 4350 powder, which covers practically everything I want to use the 338 for.
To my thinking, if you can't efficiently take any game animal with a 225 gr A-frame or TSX, it's real simple - you need a bigger gun, or some time learning how to place the bullet in the right place. The 338 is a real game getter.
KB
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17 September 2009, 15:37
338UserI prefer Reloader 22 for the 250gn (and heavier) bullets in 338 Win Mag. I get 2750fps in my rifle with a number of 250gn bullets, and around 0.7 MOA 3 shot groups. Woodleigh's 250gn PPSN and Noslers new 250gn Accubond are both very accurate and good quality bullets. AR2213SC (H4831SC) is also a powder that gives good accuracy but about 50 fps slower than Re22.
17 September 2009, 17:22
jro45I use RL25 For my 338 RUM. RL25 Really Gives me good results. For the 225 accubond bullet it goes 3178 FPS. For the 200gr bullet it goes 3120FPS. I have no Idea why it goes slower. Mabe I need to use a different powder.
17 September 2009, 20:15
cmfic1Mine likes
225gr Nosler Part.
71gr. IMR 4350 right @ 2800fps
Fed 215 primer
If I need bigger bullet, I will use my 358 Norma or my 375H+H, smaller I will go to my 300 WM. But IMO a 225 partition is all you need in NA, this is the load I used for the Brown Bear you see here.
Rod
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17 September 2009, 21:48
S&W-VarminatorI agree with cmfic1, you can't beat the 225gr partition for the price. The accubond really kick butt too though.
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18 September 2009, 05:35
babaodeHogdon H 1000 with Federal 215 primers and Nosler 250 grain partitions, 250 grain Lapua Scenar, Woodleiegh 250 grain PP ,Sierra 250 grain Matchking and Gameking will give 1/2 to 3/4 MOA accuracy in the 338 Lapua Magnum at 100 yds.I only use H 1000 in my 338 Lapua Magnum, and I have tried a lot of powders and it gives the lowest pressures in my 338 Lapua Magnum.The Lapua Scenar and the Woodleigh P-P are exceptionally accurate and will consistently give 1/2 MOA accuracy out to 400 yards +
18 September 2009, 05:55
cmfic1quote:
Originally posted by babaode:
Hogdon H 1000 with Federal 215 primers and Nosler 250 grain partitions, 250 grain Lapua Scenar, Woodleiegh 250 grain PP ,Sierra 250 grain Matchking and Gameking will give 1/2 to 3/4 MOA accuracy in the 338 Lapua Magnum at 100 yds.I only use H 1000 in my 338 Lapua Magnum, and I have tried a lot of powders and it gives the lowest pressures in my 338 Lapua Magnum.The Lapua Scenar and the Woodleigh P-P are exceptionally accurate and will consistently give 1/2 MOA accuracy out to 400 yards +
No offense, but hes looking for loads for a Win Mag, not a Lapua
Rod
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"A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong"
Bob Hagel
18 September 2009, 07:41
SnellstromMine likes 225 grain bullets and IMR-4350
Good luck with yours.
18 September 2009, 07:56
cmfic1I found a pic of the groups with my load for my 338. I buggered up when I wrote on the target, they are actually 225gr. not 210 like it says.
Rod
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"A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong"
Bob Hagel
18 September 2009, 10:44
seafire225 to 40 grains of SR 4759 for all you guys who don't need to be necessarily macho to take it deer hunting...
20 September 2009, 20:43
landkillerMy 338 Win. model 70 likes 210 Nosler's and AA3100.
20 September 2009, 21:55
ledvmNF suggested R-17 for 240's. Anyone shot any of that?
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.