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last year, i got a husqvarna m46(1937) in 9.3x57. just recently gave her to my gunsmith to d&t, bend the bolt handle and a 2 position safety.

when he's done with it, i just loaded up 280gr fn gc( https://bullshop.weebly.com/-3...er-cast-bullets.html ) with 38.0gr of imr4895. the velocity is around(guesstimate) 1700-1800fps. i know i'll have to do some accuracy work, but i don't mind. if the 9.3x57 goes roughly 3" group at 100 yards then i'm done. it will be a close cover deer/black bear rifle.







on the last picture...
the left cartridge is a 8x57 necked up to 9.3. the right cartridge is a fire formed (9.3x57)


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I have 2 of those. Worth the work to rechamber and ensure proper feeding into x62 in my opinion. Shoot if it's going to your gun plumber why not?
 
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nah, i'm fine with the 9.3x57.


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I have rechambered several of them and have left others in 57. Advantage of the 62 is availability of brass and dies. Although 57 is not exactly rare.
My personal one is still 57, for now.
 
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i use a 9.3x57 hornady die. you can take an 8x57 case and run it into the die. after that, you can load the case up and shoot it. from what i can see, other than fire forming, i and the rifle can't tell, accuracy is included.


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I love mine though I haven't hunted with it. I got mine from Simpsons, it's a M146 (98 action). It's bolt was already altered was D&Td and had a scope safety. I have loaded mine up pretty hot to just over 2400 fps with 285 gr. Prvis and 286 gr. Hornadys as well as 270 gr. Speers. Primers are good and I'm getting very good case life. 8x57mm brass is easier to get then 9.3x62 unless you make it out of 30-06 brass. I have the Hornady dies with the eliptical expander but I run it through my .358 die first to make necking up easier and use Imperial sizing die wax in the neck.

Good luck with it !

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I have often thought one of the Winchester 308 featherweights would be a nice platform for a simple rebarrel to 358 Winchester. Another nice little hammer.
 
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I love mine though I haven't hunted with it. I got mine from Simpsons, it's a M146 (98 action). It's bolt was already altered was D&Td and had a scope safety. I have loaded mine up pretty hot to just over 2400 fps with 285 gr. Prvis and 286 gr. Hornadys as well as 270 gr. Speers. Primers are good and I'm getting very good case life. 8x57mm brass is easier to get then 9.3x62 unless you make it out of 30-06 brass. I have the Hornady dies with the eliptical expander but I run it through my .358 die first to make necking up easier and use Imperial sizing die wax in the neck.

Good luck with it !

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i bought it at simpsons too!!!!!


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I sold mine to jimatcat a few years ago. He loved it.


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Another good reason to rechamber them to 62 is then you get rid of the super long throat that is commen to all 57s; they did that to keep the pressure down and accommodate the long bullet on old 96s. I find the 62 to be more accurate. But the Husqvarnas are made on actions made during WW2 and they are not soft like early military ones are. (Sweden built sporting rifles all through the war because they didn't have to concentrate on Military stuff) Or made on FN98s; Sweden never made a 98 Mauser; they thought the 96 was good enough and even built them in 30-06.
Most of these came from Simpsons; they imported, and still do, literally tons of them from Europe. They come in 4x4x4 pallets of guns, only separated by sheets of cardboard, stacked like cordwood inside the pallet box. They never know exactly what will be inside.
 
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The rifle in question is not a 98 Its a 96 or whatever, and Ive always been led to believe that a 9.3x57 should only be rechambered to a 9.3x62 in the mod. 98 Mauser??

True or not I have always purchases those Huskys in 98 Mauser actions and will continue to do so..

I know a lot of folks that disagree and shoot 95s and 96s in some hot numbers, but I wouldn't risk it myself. Some years ago Whites lab tested these 95s and 96s for the American Rifleman and they recommended only the purchase of 98s and not rechambering to 9.3x62 and/or other calibers, and if so keep pressures to 40,000 PSI as I recall?


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Another good reason to rechamber them to 62 is then you get rid of the super long throat that is commen to all 57s; they did that to keep the pressure down and accommodate the long bullet on old 96s. I find the 62 to be more accurate. But the Husqvarnas are made on actions made during WW2 and they are not soft like early military ones are. (Sweden built sporting rifles all through the war because they didn't have to concentrate on Military stuff) Or made on FN98s; Sweden never made a 98 Mauser; they thought the 96 was good enough and even built them in 30-06.
Most of these came from Simpsons; they imported, and still do, literally tons of them from Europe. They come in 4x4x4 pallets of guns, only separated by sheets of cardboard, stacked like cordwood inside the pallet box. They never know exactly what will be inside.



https://forums.gunboards.com/s...ndloading-the-9-3x57
https://www.chuckhawks.com/swedish_mauser.htm
http://sportsmansvintagepress..../historical-forward/

sweden built them (m46 and m146) with swedish steel, swedish iron ore had much less impurities than most european iron ore. sweden did make a 98 mauser because they paid a royalty on the guns that sweden produced.

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On his return to Germany Mauser resumed with feverish activity his never-ending round of work. He developed a special rifle and carbine in 6.5mm caliber in which he interested the Swedish Government. In August 1894 they ordered 5,000 pieces and in June, 1895, another 7185 pieces. Again it is of significance that additional Mausers were manufactured not at the Mauser plant, but at the Carl Gustave Stads Firearms Factory at Eskilstuna from Mauser-designed machinery. Mauser received a royalty on each rifle made by the Swedish Government. However, in 1899, when the Swedes could not fill their own requirements, an order for 45,000 of these rifles was placed directly with Oberndorf.

the husky m46 is a cock on closing action and its 44,000 psi. the husky m146 is a cock on opening and its 55,000 psi(i think, don't know).

simpsons does a quality job(A+++) on the description of the gun.


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Yes the Swedes used good steel, but their later 96 types are stronger and harder, than their early Military ones. (I have drilled a lot of them.)
So, I think their commercial use of them, with higher pressure cartridges, came from improved heat treatment.
If Sweden made a 98, I would like to see one because I never have. I could learn something; please send me a picture.
 
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I have often thought one of the Winchester 308 featherweights would be a nice platform for a simple rebarrel to 358 Winchester. Another nice little hammer.


Bluefish, Winchester used to chamber their pre 64 M70 Featherweights in .358 Win. The gunshop I built my rifle from the owner had one but wouldn't sell it to me so I had mine built (mk-X action). A year or so later I found out that he had sold it-----I felt like kicking his ass!

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I have a couple 9.3x57 rifles and enjoy them. For me, no reason to rechamber to 9.3x62. The 9.3x57 will do anything a .358 Winchester will do and not too far behind a .35 Whelen. No reason to push it. Norma makes brass and loaded ammo. Good hunting!
 
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That is so a 98, Ray.

I have long admired this one:

https://www.google.com/search?...mgrc=IHfkeBfAKB760M:

Always liked the mount on the barrel shank, too.
 
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I recall in the 1970-80 the country was flooded with Sweedes in 96 and 98 Mausers the 9.3x62 was harder to come by but they sold a number of them in 9.3x62..The only difference was the action, otherwise no difference...See blue fishs post, there is at least one sweede 98 in 9.3x62. in all those guns on that list..I had couple of them I traded to Jack Belk at the time. BUT although they looked exactly like a Sweede, it occurs to me they may have been the older Huskvarna made in Sweeden..I will have to research that when I have time.


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I looked for years to find an unmodified M46 is 9.3x57mm before I found a nice one.
They just look classy to me without those newfangled glass sights and the extra holes that go with them.


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I looked for years to find an unmodified M46 is 9.3x57mm before I found a nice one.
They just look classy to me without those newfangled glass sights and the extra holes that go with them.


I found a rather nice 1929 vintage M46 at Alan's Armory several years back with very nice wood. It had one not good patch of blueing near the muzzle end of the barrel, and a tiney almost unnoticeable drying crack in the stock toe. Blueing cleaned up and some touch up fixed that, some penetrating cyanoacrylate glue and a clamp with block made to fit cured the stock, along with a good rubdown all over with some 4/0 steel oil and lindseed oil. Other than that repair and refresh it is absolutely stock, no d/t. The stock comb is cast off so the standing iron sight lines up perfectly for me. Even at 74 with some cataracts i can shoot it well, and it's just too pretty to be changing.

I thought about the rechamber, and decided against it having read conflicting reports about potential problems in the 96 action with the much more powerful cartridge. I'll never take a shot over 200 yards, most much less so it's a nice caliber for me, hard hitting with the big "punkin" bullets, plus gets some second looks at the range.


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Yes the Swedes used good steel, but their later 96 types are stronger and harder, than their early Military ones. (I have drilled a lot of them.)
So, I think their commercial use of them, with higher pressure cartridges, came from improved heat treatment.
If Sweden made a 98, I would like to see one because I never have. I could learn something; please send me a picture.


This site may clear things up. Near the bottom of the page are the 8x57 Mauser. On the one it has click here to read more about it. Do that and you will see that Sweden ordered those from Mauser in Germany. I don't believe Sweden actually made any 98 Mauser action rifles in their country. They did make a later 96 action, which you will see, in 8x57 Mauser chambering.

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/a...les_se/rifles_se.htm
 
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I’ve got a Swedish 98 commercial Mauser in 6.5x55 with a Swedish crest and it has FN proof marks on it.


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Maybe I will have the good luck to run across a Swedish made 98 some day. I have a sporter made on what I think is a 1912 Mexican Mauser, nice gun but the action is nowhere as smooth as my Husqvarna 46 which is the Swedish 96 action.


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Maybe I will have the good luck to run across a Swedish made 98 some day. I have a sporter made on what I think is a 1912 Mexican Mauser, nice gun but the action is nowhere as smooth as my Husqvarna 46 which is the Swedish 96 action.


Like that link I posted a few posts up I'm not sure Sweden actually made a 98 action in their country.
 
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