I have a custom 300WM that I love and am looking to add an ultralight "medium" bore.

My preferred caliber is .270, but I am flexible there.

The 3 factory options I am looking at are the Ruger Ultralight(too heavy), Sako Finnlight(too heavy),Kimber 84 Montana(no .270)

Any thought or advice is appreciated.

Reminton Mountain Ti out of the question? I know they're not currently produced but you can still find the Browning Ti models, those things were SUPER light. 270wsm....but I haven't seen a 270 Win. Factory ultralights are almost always going to be short actions.

2nd the short action lightweight comment. Browning Medallion's in short action are pretty light so I would bet the Ti would be a feather and the stalker w. the synthetic stock would be pretty light too.

I will have to check out both the browning and the Remington Ti. I am not opposed to short Magnums either.

Browning A bolt Ti looks pretty interesting, already bedded with a great stock and decelerator, and it comes in 270WSM.

Cons:It is heavier and longer than the Kimber 84 Montana.

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Originally posted by GDOG:
I have a custom 300WM that I love and am looking to add an ultralight "medium" bore.

My preferred caliber is .270, but I am flexible there.

The 3 factory options I am looking at are the Ruger Ultralight(too heavy), Sako Finnlight(too heavy),Kimber 84 Montana(no .270)

Any thought or advice is appreciated.

I'd buy a Kimber 270WSM Montana and not look back. Slightly heavier than the 84 Montana's but not much. In my hands the 8400's feel just right in my hands the 84M's a little small and the 8400 LA a little large.

The other option would be to wait for the new 84 Long Action that Kimber is going to release hopefully this year. The 8400 Long Actions are scaled for 375 H&H lenght rounds and that's what they currently produce in 270 Winchester. The new 84 Long Action will be a lengthened 84M and should be a good bit lighter than the 8400 Long Action..........................DJ

...unless I am mistaken Kimber doesn't make the 84 Montana in 270 WSM??

Weatherby...in the ultra light weight. It has a 60 deg. bolt throw, fluted stainless barrel, fluted bolt, alluminum bedding block in a tan spiderweb stock all in a very light rifle in a large assortment of short, long, and magnum calibers.

I have one in 7 Rem Mag and realy like it.

I also have two other light rifles the Kimber 84M in 7mm08 that is my go-to cary rifle because you hardly know it's there light. Also my custom stocked Browning A-Bolt Medalion in .270 WSM.



http://www.weatherby.com/produ...les/markv/ultralight

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Originally posted by GDOG:
...unless I am mistaken Kimber doesn't make the 84 Montana in 270 WSM??

They make an 8400 Montana in 270 WSM. Larger than a 84 Montana but smaller than a 8400 Long Action Montana in 270 Winchester. Not too small, not too large but just right. It's a Goldielocks rifle :-) ....................DJ

GDOG, Guns are fun. It's fun shopping and analizing about guns on AR forums. I spent many months doing both before I bought a titanium Rem 700 in 7mm 08 a few years ago as a mountain rifle. What learned from my experience suggests a guy with no experience with super light rifles might want to try shooting and even hunting with a one before spending the big bucks. You can do an AR search to read the discussions around my super-light mountain gun purchase. In short, the gun is a joy to carry, especially in steep places, it shoots really well, but I find it is much harder shoot accurately, consistantly just because it is so light. I love .270 Win. I love A-Bolts and X-Bolts, but given the choice between a Ti A-Bolt and a standard stainless A-Bolt in .270 I probably go with the stainless gun and carry the extra small difference in weight.
Am I making an sense?

You also have the Colt Light Rifle to think about. I have one in 270 and its a tack driver. Its also quite light as it is a knock off of the Ultra Light Arms rifle designed by the very same fellow for Colt. I will also 2nd the Weatherby Ultra-Lightweight as I have one in 30-06 and it too is quite light, especially when you install the special Talley rings/bases made in light weight aluminum. If money is no object, its hard to beat Match Grade Arms rifles....about as light as they get. I have a 375 H&H w/a 24" bbl and brake w/ his custom lightweight scope mounts/rings that is lighter than any factory rifle made in any action size. However, that option is costly.

I have a Rem titanium in 270 win.

I'm not a huge fan of Remington but it shoots great for a light weight and carries even better.

It's a keeper

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Weatherby...in the ultra light weight. It has a 60 deg. bolt throw, fluted stainless barrel, fluted bolt, alluminum bedding block in a tan spiderweb stock all in a very light rifle in a large assortment of short, long, and magnum calibers.

+1 on the Ultra-Lightweight.

Have one in 25-06 and LOVE it.

What I really like about the A-Bolt Ti is the magazine. Its not a normal drop box, can be loaded from underneath or from up top. Easy to carry an extra in the pocket for fast reloading if need be rather then messing with pressing more carts in through the top. Granted you shouldn't need more then one shot .....we all know shit happens haha.

The new Win 70 featherweight is available in 270wsm too.

Glad to hear you're not against the short mags! Yes many will argue they don't see a point blah blah blah....but the fact of the matter in this scenario is, there are just a LOT of ultralight choices in short actions, and almost every single short action factory ultralight....is available in WSM's. Can't say that about the 25-06/270/30-06. However, the Rem Mountain Ti is quite nice too, I was looking at the 280 Rem today at Gander Mountain, on sale for like 1k. Sharp rifle, very VERY light.

I will have to check out the Wby also. I could even go .257 WBy if it was light enough???

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Originally posted by GDOG:
I will have to check out the Wby also. I could even go .257 WBy if it was light enough???

GDOG, the 257 will also be very light in that rifle, but unless you are really enamored with the belted weatherby round, your choice of the 270 is probably more....straightforward...
With 110 grain AB's and TSX's it can be a blistering fast option if you handload....

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Originally posted by Strut10:

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Weatherby...in the ultra light weight. It has a 60 deg. bolt throw, fluted stainless barrel, fluted bolt, alluminum bedding block in a tan spiderweb stock all in a very light rifle in a large assortment of short, long, and magnum calibers.

+1 on the Ultra-Lightweight.


Have one in 25-06 and LOVE it.

+2

at 5.75 lbs, its one of the lightest factory rifles available.

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Originally posted by GDOG:
I have a custom 300WM that I love and am looking to add an ultralight "medium" bore.

My preferred caliber is .270, but I am flexible there.

The 3 factory options I am looking at are the Ruger Ultralight(too heavy), Sako Finnlight(too heavy),Kimber 84 Montana(no .270)

Any thought or advice is appreciated.

also: Sako finnlight w/ a different stock you should be able to get under 6 lbs.

1. Ed Brown Damara, 7x57.
2. Steyr Scout, .308 or 7mm-08.

As to either, BRING YOUR WALLET.

The above are posted in spiter of my love for all things Browning.

Happy New Year and good hunting to all.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Weatherby...in the ultra light weight. It has a 60 deg. bolt throw, fluted stainless barrel, fluted bolt, alluminum bedding block in a tan spiderweb stock all in a very light rifle in a large assortment of short, long, and magnum calibers.

+3 on the Wby U-Lt. Mine is in 308Win and is extremely difficult to reach past in the Safe.

The Larger the Bore in the Wby U-Lt, the Lighter it will be - metal wise - for the same Action type.

Had a buddy buy one about 12-15 years ago(not real sure when it was). Kept telling me, "You have to feel this rifle in your own hands to believe it!" Yeah, RIGHT!!

Messed up and he handed it to me. Good-gosh did "his rifle" ever fit me well. Felt like it was holding onto me, which concerned him.

Went into the totally uncontrollable full-Swap mode and got one just like his(except for the Serial#). So, be really careful if you handle one in your own hands, they tend to cause Swaps and Lighter Billfolds.

Mine will shoot an "average" in the 6s when everything on me is running correctly and with a properly Developed Load. There are more accurate rifles, but the ones I've had(have) sure are not as Light.

Also like the excellent Remington Tis and M7s. The M7s I have are more accurate than I'd really expect them to be and also average in the 6s with their prefered Loads.
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You have a lot of excellent choices available. Just don't expect consistent accuracy levels compared to a 10#+ M700 with a Bull Barrel. But then, they are designed for a whole different area.

Best of luck with your choice.

I like the Win Featherweight in either 7-08 or .270 Win.It's not really all that light but it's a really nice gun.

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I have owned a couple of Sauer 202 Outbacks and more than likely will own another one of these days, and they are great guns.

On the other hand, if I were to be in the market for a true "ultralite" rifle, I wouldn't waste my time with any of the production guns out there. I would give Melvin Forbes a call and order a NULA.

Great ideas all. I have always liked the Sauer looks. On the Weatherby-not so much, but I will go fondle one and see if I change my mind.

I am hoping to spend under 1K all in.

I can get the Ruger ultralight in .270W under 5# without scope and rings by replacing the wood stock with a factory synthetic stock and will be at about $700.00 or in the Kimber84 Montana 7mm-08 at 5lbs. 2oz at $800.00.

Well I think that puts the Rem and Browning Ti's out of the running, I do believe they both run over 1k....closer to 1100.

GDOG do you have a Gander Mountain nearby?

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Originally posted by GDOG:

I am hoping to spend under 1K all in.

I can get the Ruger ultralight in .270W under 5# without scope and rings by replacing the wood stock with a factory synthetic stock and will be at about $700.00 or in the Kimber84 Montana 7mm-08 at 5lbs. 2oz at $800.00.

Sorry, I didn't see the spending limit.

I have an old tang safety Ruger Ultralite 270 that has accounted for over 100 head of game, and I can assure you that gun KICKS! It kicks enough that it is in the back of my safe and will never see another day in the field.

Maybe changing the stock will help eliminate some of the recoil. At least I hope for you that it does...Good Luck!

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
Well I think that puts the Rem and Browning Ti's out of the running, I do believe they both run over 1k....closer to 1100.

GDOG do you have a Gander Mountain nearby?

Yes. Why??

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Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:

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Originally posted by GDOG:

I am hoping to spend under 1K all in.

I can get the Ruger ultralight in .270W under 5# without scope and rings by replacing the wood stock with a factory synthetic stock and will be at about $700.00 or in the Kimber84 Montana 7mm-08 at 5lbs. 2oz at $800.00.

Sorry, I didn't see the spending limit.

I have an old tang safety Ruger Ultralite 270 that has accounted for over 100 head of game, and I can assure you that gun KICKS! It kicks enough that it is in the back of my safe and will never see another day in the field.

Maybe changing the stock will help eliminate some of the recoil. At least I hope for you that it does...Good Luck!

...pretty funny... because my template for the perfect rifle is my dad's (15+ year old?) tang saftey ruger ultralight in 30-06. I used it for many years and still love it. That is why i am looking to go down in caliber to .270 or below. That thing is a flame throwing MUTHA! What I like about the Kimber Montana is the extra 2" of barrel that I assume will help with the recoil and concussion.


...On a side note... my love for that particular rifle spurred me to build a custom .416 Taylor on that same tang M77 action. It probably has helped to increase my recoil tolerance.

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Originally posted by GDOG:

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
Well I think that puts the Rem and Browning Ti's out of the running, I do believe they both run over 1k....closer to 1100.

GDOG do you have a Gander Mountain nearby?

Yes. Why??

Cause as a store policy, they will transfer guns between stores at no extra charge for customers. And my local store has a Rem 700 DM mountain rifle in 7-08 for 650$ that would be right up your alley. Its a tiny bit heavier then the other rifles you are looking at, but a lot cheaper. You could then order a Bell & Carlson Rem factory Ti stock for 250$, drop more weight, and still be under 1k and now its semi "custom"! Or just leave it as is, its pretty light and looks like its in really good shape.

i have a ruger ultra lite and fully loaded with a 4-12 scope on it it weights 63/4 lbs its a real pleasure to carry all day

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Originally posted by Woodrow S:
You also have the Colt Light Rifle to think about. I have one in 270 and its a tack driver. Its also quite light as it is a knock off of the Ultra Light Arms rifle designed by the very same fellow for Colt. I will also 2nd the Weatherby Ultra-Lightweight as I have one in 30-06 and it too is quite light, especially when you install the special Talley rings/bases made in light weight aluminum.

Big +1 on either the Colt or the Weatherby. The Ruger is nice for some calibers but with a 20" barrel you'll lose a bunch of the purpose for going 270 or WSM. And you'll gain a LOT of noise.

OTOH, I'd like that Ruger in a smaller cased cartridge like 7-08 or 308. I've even lusted for the little Ruger compact with the 16" barrel.

I just sold a Ruger Compact in .308--One of my favorite rifles.

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63/4 lbs its a real pleasure to carry all day

Big Bill,

What stock do you have on it? and what caliber?